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Good luck with completely removing support to run 32 bit applications and all those 32 bit videogames (which is the vast majority of them). Or any other 32 bit

by d1zzy 9y ago

Good luck with completely removing support to run 32 bit applications and all those 32 bit videogames (which is the vast majority of them). Or any other 32 bit application that won't ever receive updates.

lemoncucumber 9y ago
What makes you think Apple cares? Most serious gamers would already be dual-booting Windows if they want to game on a Mac, and most casual gamers presumably wouldn't consider it a dealbreaker to have older games stop working.
- shmerl 9y ago
  > Most serious gamers would already be dual-booting Windows if they want to game on a Mac I'd say serious gamers already switched from macOS to Linux if they don't want to use Windows to begin with. Simply because you can run DX11 games in Wine on Linux, but not on macOS. Borking 32-bit games would only accelerate this shift.
  - tpush 9y ago
    Gamers who use macOS probably use a console for gaming anyways.
    - mullingitover 9y ago
      No idea why you're getting downvoted. Sincerely, A person who uses MacOS and games on a console.
    - shmerl 9y ago
      Try running something like VtM Bloodlines on a console. It runs perfectly in Wine on Linux on the other hand. And I suppose it would on macOS, at least until 32-bit support will still be there.
- d1zzy 9y ago
  Well for one, I won't be able to just take my work laptop on vacation and have the option to kill time with some FTL or This War of Mine. Not saying that OSX is the best gaming platform out there but it's very convenient to be able to take one light laptop on vacation. In (the rare) case I need work access I can do that. In case I don't, I can chill playing some games. Now it seems that won't be an option anymore :(
  - fv3y 9y ago
    If you pick up FTL on the Humble Store you should be able to play it on their website in a web browser. edit 01: [screenshots] 1) https://screenshots.firefox.com/YJvULhgFlPJKtpD1/www.humblebundle.com https://screenshots.firefox.com/YJvULhgFlPJKtpD1/www.humbleb... 2) https://screenshots.firefox.com/UMQMitQ4Rm4viSlv/www.humblebundle.com https://screenshots.firefox.com/UMQMitQ4Rm4viSlv/www.humbleb... edit 02: To play it in a separate tabs as per the scrots just take the key from the purchase page https://www.humblebundle.com/downloads?key=foobarXXXX https://www.humblebundle.com/downloads?key=foobarXXXX and apply it to this url like so https://www.humblebundle.com/play/asmjs/ftl_asm/foobarXXXX https://www.humblebundle.com/play/asmjs/ftl_asm/foobarXXXX As a bonus this allows you to play it on any computer without logging in.
ksk 9y ago
This is kind of why I personally don't take OSX to be a serious platform for wide scale deployment. Companies make long-term investments in purchasing software that works, and they would like for that software to keep working, and don't care about fancy new OS features.
- gergles 9y ago
  I don't believe Apple is forcing anyone at gunpoint to upgrade their OS. If you want to keep running the software that you bought, you can keep running the OS you bought. If you want to upgrade your OS, then you need to accept that it will change. This has been the case for all of recorded history.
  - berdario 9y ago
    Apple never has/never will release a Meltdown fix for Yosemite. Keeping macOS (or any OS, really) not updated, is not really an option... unless you're going to keep your computer airgapped. You might accept to keep unpatched systems, or manage to use them in an airgapped environment. But for a lot of businesses that deploy fleets of Apple hardware, the problem is going to be much more tricky. (then again, I can see this being an issue only for internally-developed VB6-style apps, which would take a lot of effort to be updated... commercial software like Adobe CS, or even specialist software is going to be upgrade, if not immediately in 1 or 2 major releases, and Apple backports important security patches)
  - ksk 9y ago
    A company that recognizes business needs has a service program to keep the released branch stable and updated. This has been the case for all of recorded history.

by d1zzy 9y ago

lemoncucumber 9y ago

What makes you think Apple cares? Most serious gamers would already be dual-booting Windows if they want to game on a Mac, and most casual gamers presumably wouldn't consider it a dealbreaker to have older games stop working.

shmerl 9y ago
> Most serious gamers would already be dual-booting Windows if they want to game on a Mac I'd say serious gamers already switched from macOS to Linux if they don't want to use Windows to begin with. Simply because you can run DX11 games in Wine on Linux, but not on macOS. Borking 32-bit games would only accelerate this shift.
- tpush 9y ago
  Gamers who use macOS probably use a console for gaming anyways.
  - mullingitover 9y ago
    No idea why you're getting downvoted. Sincerely, A person who uses MacOS and games on a console.
  - shmerl 9y ago
    Try running something like VtM Bloodlines on a console. It runs perfectly in Wine on Linux on the other hand. And I suppose it would on macOS, at least until 32-bit support will still be there.
d1zzy 9y ago
Well for one, I won't be able to just take my work laptop on vacation and have the option to kill time with some FTL or This War of Mine. Not saying that OSX is the best gaming platform out there but it's very convenient to be able to take one light laptop on vacation. In (the rare) case I need work access I can do that. In case I don't, I can chill playing some games. Now it seems that won't be an option anymore :(
- fv3y 9y ago
  If you pick up FTL on the Humble Store you should be able to play it on their website in a web browser. edit 01: [screenshots] 1) https://screenshots.firefox.com/YJvULhgFlPJKtpD1/www.humblebundle.com https://screenshots.firefox.com/YJvULhgFlPJKtpD1/www.humbleb... 2) https://screenshots.firefox.com/UMQMitQ4Rm4viSlv/www.humblebundle.com https://screenshots.firefox.com/UMQMitQ4Rm4viSlv/www.humbleb... edit 02: To play it in a separate tabs as per the scrots just take the key from the purchase page https://www.humblebundle.com/downloads?key=foobarXXXX https://www.humblebundle.com/downloads?key=foobarXXXX and apply it to this url like so https://www.humblebundle.com/play/asmjs/ftl_asm/foobarXXXX https://www.humblebundle.com/play/asmjs/ftl_asm/foobarXXXX As a bonus this allows you to play it on any computer without logging in.

ksk 9y ago

This is kind of why I personally don't take OSX to be a serious platform for wide scale deployment. Companies make long-term investments in purchasing software that works, and they would like for that software to keep working, and don't care about fancy new OS features.

gergles 9y ago
I don't believe Apple is forcing anyone at gunpoint to upgrade their OS. If you want to keep running the software that you bought, you can keep running the OS you bought. If you want to upgrade your OS, then you need to accept that it will change. This has been the case for all of recorded history.
- berdario 9y ago
  Apple never has/never will release a Meltdown fix for Yosemite. Keeping macOS (or any OS, really) not updated, is not really an option... unless you're going to keep your computer airgapped. You might accept to keep unpatched systems, or manage to use them in an airgapped environment. But for a lot of businesses that deploy fleets of Apple hardware, the problem is going to be much more tricky. (then again, I can see this being an issue only for internally-developed VB6-style apps, which would take a lot of effort to be updated... commercial software like Adobe CS, or even specialist software is going to be upgrade, if not immediately in 1 or 2 major releases, and Apple backports important security patches)
- ksk 9y ago
  A company that recognizes business needs has a service program to keep the released branch stable and updated. This has been the case for all of recorded history.