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Let's suppose there is no published source to corroborate the statement I wrote. Is the statement ipso facto untrue? Alternatively, let's say there's a source
by carussell 9y ago
Let's suppose there is no published source to corroborate the statement I wrote. Is the statement ipso facto untrue?
Alternatively, let's say there's a source, but I don't provide it. Does that effect whether my statement is true or not true?
Thirdly, now let's suppose there's a source available, they've measured it, found a result that agrees with what I wrote, and I offer it up. Now what happens? Does that change anything for you? Do you say, "Oh, when I wrote [citation needed] before, what I really meant is that I disagreed with you and was trying to express that through a sideways remark. I've considered the information in the source you provided, though, and have now adjusted my mental model accordingly."
I just want your answers before I invest any significant effort into trawling through data and putting work into a response. Otherwise, it would just be a massive waste of time on my part, right?
- brewdad 9y agoFor future reference, you could save everyone some time and just say that you made up the numbers.
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- jccalhoun 9y agoWithout evidence there is no way to evaluate the credibility of the claim.
- carussell 9y agoThe general tone of your two comments is that I've been disingenuous, when the real disservice to the conversation is the zero-effort, thread-derailing snark. Here's a more verbose way to say exactly the same point I was making, but possibly (hopefully) less susceptible to zero-effort dismissals from the kinds of people who like scoring easy points by taking potshots against auxiliary details instead of taking the main thrust of the argument into consideration: "Mozilla in 2018 brings in 10 times as much revenue as it did in 2008. Is it 10 times as effective and doing 10 times as much good work? The same as before? Or is it closer to 1/10 for both?"
- jccalhoun 9y agoI'm sorry if asking for evidence to back up claims is thread-derailing snark.
- carussell 9y ago1. You're sorry? No you're not. Now that is disingenuous. 2. When responding to a comment about your inability to engage rather than writing out snarky one-liners, choosing to rebut it by replying in the form of a snarky one-liner doesn't do anything to help your case. 3. Respond to the content of my message or fuck off.