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Assange's supporters continue to play disingenuous word games with "imprisoned" and "confined". Assange is not being imprisoned. He can leave the embassy and ex

Assange's supporters continue to play disingenuous word games with "imprisoned" and "confined". Assange is not being imprisoned. He can leave the embassy and exercise his right to medical care any time he likes. What he doesn't have is the "right to not be arrested", because nobody has that right. Edit: reworded slightly

ftrway 9y ago
Diplomats have that right.
- evgen 9y ago
  And he is not a diplomat, nor does he have any recognized diplomatic immunity, so the point is moot.
  - ravitation 9y ago
    What? No, it's not. He was responding to the claim that "nobody has that right" with a clear example showing it's false...
    - AnimalMuppet 9y ago
      Which means that Analemma_ overstated the point slightly. But the actual point wasn't whether anybody had that right. The actual point was, Assange does not have that right. He is in self-imposed exile to avoid arrest. The consequences of that are the consequences of his own choices. How you feel about the situation is kind of a litmus test. Either you see Assange as running from a rape charge (and running from it so determinedly that it indicates a high likelihood of guilt), or you see him as running from a determined effort to persecute him by stooges of the evil US government. Whichever one you believe determines how you feel about his inability to leave and get health care. Either you see it as "you made your bed, now lie in it", or you see it as one more aspect of The Man hounding him.
    - deadmetheny 9y ago
      Which is being pedantic purely for the sake of pedantry.
ataturk 9y ago
The problem with all that being that the IC played games with Sweden and the UK and used the classic honey trap on him all with an eye towards drawing him out so he could be murdered. If he is arrested and goes to jail he's a dead man as there are contracts out on him. Truth be told, he could walk right out of that embassy and be dead before he made it two blocks because money. So it's kind of a unique case. Oh hey, if nobody has the right not to be arrested, I can expect the US Marshal's to be picking up Hillary Clinton anytime, right? Truth is, that people with power are TOTALLY immune from laws.

ftrway 9y ago

Diplomats have that right.

evgen 9y ago
And he is not a diplomat, nor does he have any recognized diplomatic immunity, so the point is moot.
- ravitation 9y ago
  What? No, it's not. He was responding to the claim that "nobody has that right" with a clear example showing it's false...
  - AnimalMuppet 9y ago
    Which means that Analemma_ overstated the point slightly. But the actual point wasn't whether anybody had that right. The actual point was, Assange does not have that right. He is in self-imposed exile to avoid arrest. The consequences of that are the consequences of his own choices. How you feel about the situation is kind of a litmus test. Either you see Assange as running from a rape charge (and running from it so determinedly that it indicates a high likelihood of guilt), or you see him as running from a determined effort to persecute him by stooges of the evil US government. Whichever one you believe determines how you feel about his inability to leave and get health care. Either you see it as "you made your bed, now lie in it", or you see it as one more aspect of The Man hounding him.
  - deadmetheny 9y ago
    Which is being pedantic purely for the sake of pedantry.

ataturk 9y ago

The problem with all that being that the IC played games with Sweden and the UK and used the classic honey trap on him all with an eye towards drawing him out so he could be murdered. If he is arrested and goes to jail he's a dead man as there are contracts out on him. Truth be told, he could walk right out of that embassy and be dead before he made it two blocks because money. So it's kind of a unique case. Oh hey, if nobody has the right not to be arrested, I can expect the US Marshal's to be picking up Hillary Clinton anytime, right? Truth is, that people with power are TOTALLY immune from laws.