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Hitler and Goebbels forewarning us about the despicable means the US government uses to bring down whistle-blowers... Ummm... I don't know whether Assange is f

by zeteo 16y ago

Hitler and Goebbels forewarning us about the despicable means the US government uses to bring down whistle-blowers... Ummm... I don't know whether Assange is framed or not. But bringing these two into the discussion seems a bit ridiculous. If Adolf and Joseph knew so much, maybe they could have won the war?! Or, at least, avoided declaring war on the US in 1941, when they had no reason to do so.

Mz 16y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law
- zeteo 16y ago
  Nobody was compared to the Nazis here. Strangely enough, we have a case where the Nazis' writings make it into the discussion as pearls of wisdom. Just to give a bit of context, Hitler and Goebbels considered the US a failed state, ruled by Jews and corrupted by Negro culture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art Their criticism (including "big lie" accusations) comes from this point of view.
cabalamat 16y ago
> If Adolf and Joseph knew so much, maybe they could have won the war?! There's a common meme of saying the Nazis had bad judgement (they did get some major decisions wrong) and that as a consequence they were stupid. The second point is largely not true: Hitler, Goebbels, Goering etc were in fact quite intelligent -- they could hardly have taken over a country otherwise. Just because someone's evil, don't assume they're stupid.
- zeteo 16y ago
  Hitler was smart enough and knew Germany's neighbors well enough to defeat them. However, as the war showed in a dramatic manner, he had a very poor understanding of the "Anglo" nations (e.g. he thought that the UK would make peace with him and that Roosevelt would never be able to put an effective army in the field). Any opinions he expressed about society and the system of government in Britain and the US should be considered false by default.

by zeteo 16y ago

Mz 16y ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law

zeteo 16y ago
Nobody was compared to the Nazis here. Strangely enough, we have a case where the Nazis' writings make it into the discussion as pearls of wisdom. Just to give a bit of context, Hitler and Goebbels considered the US a failed state, ruled by Jews and corrupted by Negro culture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_art Their criticism (including "big lie" accusations) comes from this point of view.

cabalamat 16y ago

> If Adolf and Joseph knew so much, maybe they could have won the war?! There's a common meme of saying the Nazis had bad judgement (they did get some major decisions wrong) and that as a consequence they were stupid. The second point is largely not true: Hitler, Goebbels, Goering etc were in fact quite intelligent -- they could hardly have taken over a country otherwise. Just because someone's evil, don't assume they're stupid.

zeteo 16y ago
Hitler was smart enough and knew Germany's neighbors well enough to defeat them. However, as the war showed in a dramatic manner, he had a very poor understanding of the "Anglo" nations (e.g. he thought that the UK would make peace with him and that Roosevelt would never be able to put an effective army in the field). Any opinions he expressed about society and the system of government in Britain and the US should be considered false by default.