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This is the first article on HN that specifically states it's 25 projects that get the $40.000, meaning they have an initial budget of $1M. To put this in pers

This is the first article on HN that specifically states it's 25 projects that get the $40.000, meaning they have an initial budget of $1M. To put this in perspective, the iFund, which supports iOS projects has a $200M budget. So, not that I have something with this Chile project, but I feel it's getting way too much "airtime" on HN. I don't need to see this daily on the RSS feed. I've always disliked contests of this kind. If Chile wants to really push this industry in their country, make it really simple: reduce (or remove) the taxes for software companies. This would make them an instant target for entrepreneurs and would cost them nothing.

ankeshk 16y ago
Thanks for your comment. In countries with lower cost of labour, reducing or removing taxes on software companies will lead to folks starting outsourcing and service related companies. Not entrepreneurial product based startups. India is a prime example of this. Compared to the number of software developers in the country, the number of startups that pop up from India is very very low. So from Chile's point of view, I think its a great pilot plan.
- zaidf 16y ago
  ...will lead to folks starting outsourcing and service related companies. Not entrepreneurial product based startups. IMO that is just another type of startup.
  - ecaradec 16y ago
    But this king of companies tend to live on thin margin and exploit local population. This may not be in the best interest of Chile to bring this kind of population.
    - zaidf 16y ago
      I disagree. I don't know very many Indian programmers who consider themselves "exploited" by firms such as Infosys, Wipro etc. In fact, quite the opposite. Most Indian programmers that are worth a dime are sitting on multiple job offers at any given time.
- fierarul 16y ago
  By definition startups have a chance of failing. Betting Chile's software strategy on 25 startups is a risky business. I don't see why lower taxes will reduce entrepreneurship there or introduce only outsourcing -- won't the locals use this chance to create their own startups ? There are many things to discuss here but I assume some countries either culturally or financially encourage enterprises. If Chile doesn't have the right legal, tax and socio-educational framework then startups will never migrate there. There are just too many aspects to look at but I do believe that a contest with some $40K prizes can't beat lowering taxes.
  - jbooth 16y ago
    Eh, lowering taxes puts money in the pocket of everybody who makes any money, and you're primarily taking less money from already existing income. Chile's looking to create new high tech startups. Entirely different problems.
pierre_M 16y ago
Isn't the scale of it comparable to YCombinator? YC certainly gets a lot of mentions here (not entirely unrelated to the fact that they run the site, but still...).
- jacquesm 16y ago
  Their money is not tied to a string with a bunch of reporting requirements, they are in the midst of Silicon Valley and have very good connections to the rest of the tech world. Scale is not the most important factor when evaluating stuff like this.
daniel-cussen 16y ago
The instant visa is actually the bigger draw.
rwhitman 16y ago
But isn't the cost of living in Chile markedly lower? So that $40,000 is potentially stretched a lot further. Also its a grant, not an investment. So you basically get free $40k in living and startup expenses taken care of for free. If they're seeking to give this to recent grads with low salary expectations to begin with, I'd say its a fantastic opportunity. What is there to lose?
ez77 16y ago
Oh, come on. For decades the US increased its brain power by actively promoting brain drain from other countries, not just by reducing R&D taxes internally. It would be amusing and certainly fair game if Chile managed to do the opposite with a mere 40K per project.

ankeshk 16y ago

Thanks for your comment. In countries with lower cost of labour, reducing or removing taxes on software companies will lead to folks starting outsourcing and service related companies. Not entrepreneurial product based startups. India is a prime example of this. Compared to the number of software developers in the country, the number of startups that pop up from India is very very low. So from Chile's point of view, I think its a great pilot plan.

zaidf 16y ago
...will lead to folks starting outsourcing and service related companies. Not entrepreneurial product based startups. IMO that is just another type of startup.
- ecaradec 16y ago
  But this king of companies tend to live on thin margin and exploit local population. This may not be in the best interest of Chile to bring this kind of population.
  - zaidf 16y ago
    I disagree. I don't know very many Indian programmers who consider themselves "exploited" by firms such as Infosys, Wipro etc. In fact, quite the opposite. Most Indian programmers that are worth a dime are sitting on multiple job offers at any given time.
fierarul 16y ago
By definition startups have a chance of failing. Betting Chile's software strategy on 25 startups is a risky business. I don't see why lower taxes will reduce entrepreneurship there or introduce only outsourcing -- won't the locals use this chance to create their own startups ? There are many things to discuss here but I assume some countries either culturally or financially encourage enterprises. If Chile doesn't have the right legal, tax and socio-educational framework then startups will never migrate there. There are just too many aspects to look at but I do believe that a contest with some $40K prizes can't beat lowering taxes.
- jbooth 16y ago
  Eh, lowering taxes puts money in the pocket of everybody who makes any money, and you're primarily taking less money from already existing income. Chile's looking to create new high tech startups. Entirely different problems.

pierre_M 16y ago

Isn't the scale of it comparable to YCombinator? YC certainly gets a lot of mentions here (not entirely unrelated to the fact that they run the site, but still...).

jacquesm 16y ago
Their money is not tied to a string with a bunch of reporting requirements, they are in the midst of Silicon Valley and have very good connections to the rest of the tech world. Scale is not the most important factor when evaluating stuff like this.

daniel-cussen 16y ago

The instant visa is actually the bigger draw.

rwhitman 16y ago

But isn't the cost of living in Chile markedly lower? So that $40,000 is potentially stretched a lot further. Also its a grant, not an investment. So you basically get free $40k in living and startup expenses taken care of for free. If they're seeking to give this to recent grads with low salary expectations to begin with, I'd say its a fantastic opportunity. What is there to lose?

ez77 16y ago

Oh, come on. For decades the US increased its brain power by actively promoting brain drain from other countries, not just by reducing R&D taxes internally. It would be amusing and certainly fair game if Chile managed to do the opposite with a mere 40K per project.