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What Windows browser would you suggest instead? Chrome is made by a literal advertising company and Edge seems nice but relatively feature-poor.

craftyguy 9y ago
Sadly, Firefox is still the 'lesser of all evils', even though everyone continues to get more and more evil as time moves forward.
Feniks 9y ago
Yep. We're down to Safari, Edge, FF and Chrome. Everything else is just a fork of one of those.
- anfilt 9y ago
  Part of the problem is how complex the web stanards are these days. Try building a browser from the ground up today. Part of the issue is the stanards committees keep adding onto what was supposed to be a document format. We have added onto the spec so much that its a mess. Ironically, it was netscape that probably screwed up the web the most by adding javascript. That boat has sailed, but we keep adding more and more features to the specs.
- majewsky 9y ago
  Chrome is a fork of Safari (is a fork of Konqueror).
abrowne 9y ago
QupZilla (to be renamed Falkon in the next major version) is an option I like. Overall it is very Firefox-like, but it is a Qt app using Qt WebEngine, which is Chromium integrated into Qt. (I've only used it on Linux and briefly on Mac, but there is a Windows build too.)
- majewsky 9y ago
  How fast do they get patches in when the Chromium part has a security issue? That's usually where all these "let's just fork the last good version of $browser" or "let's just fork their engine and build a new UI around it" endeavors come crashing down in flames.
  - abrowne 9y ago
    I'm not sure how quickly Qt does it, and then WebEngine on Linux is typically supplied by your distro, so more delay. There is an AppImage, which does bundle it, however, and the Windows build would too. This is my main source of hesitation in switching over full time.
brailsafe 9y ago
Probably Chrome or Firefox. Haven't used Windows in a long time, but I'm using Firefox Dev edition on mac.

craftyguy 9y ago

Sadly, Firefox is still the 'lesser of all evils', even though everyone continues to get more and more evil as time moves forward.

Feniks 9y ago

Yep. We're down to Safari, Edge, FF and Chrome. Everything else is just a fork of one of those.

anfilt 9y ago
Part of the problem is how complex the web stanards are these days. Try building a browser from the ground up today. Part of the issue is the stanards committees keep adding onto what was supposed to be a document format. We have added onto the spec so much that its a mess. Ironically, it was netscape that probably screwed up the web the most by adding javascript. That boat has sailed, but we keep adding more and more features to the specs.
majewsky 9y ago
Chrome is a fork of Safari (is a fork of Konqueror).

abrowne 9y ago

QupZilla (to be renamed Falkon in the next major version) is an option I like. Overall it is very Firefox-like, but it is a Qt app using Qt WebEngine, which is Chromium integrated into Qt. (I've only used it on Linux and briefly on Mac, but there is a Windows build too.)

majewsky 9y ago
How fast do they get patches in when the Chromium part has a security issue? That's usually where all these "let's just fork the last good version of $browser" or "let's just fork their engine and build a new UI around it" endeavors come crashing down in flames.
- abrowne 9y ago
  I'm not sure how quickly Qt does it, and then WebEngine on Linux is typically supplied by your distro, so more delay. There is an AppImage, which does bundle it, however, and the Windows build would too. This is my main source of hesitation in switching over full time.

brailsafe 9y ago

Probably Chrome or Firefox. Haven't used Windows in a long time, but I'm using Firefox Dev edition on mac.