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Wow. Much altruism. Such revolution. TLDR; "First we enabled DRM, then we sideloaded an advertising extension, now we're an advertising platform, but don't wor
by brailsafe 9y ago
Wow. Much altruism. Such revolution.
TLDR;
"First we enabled DRM, then we sideloaded an advertising extension, now we're an advertising platform, but don't worry because we're changing the world."
- Paul-ish 9y agoPerfect is the enemy of good. Snark is just bad.
- jasonkostempski 9y agoAdvertising software is the killer of good. Mozilla's situation is more like I'm having a perfect hair day, got the perfect outfit and in the best shape of my life, everything is literally perfect; I better just shit in my pants so things aren't too perfect.
- brailsafe 9y agoAgreed, and hilarious. The new Firefox recently replaced Chrome as my default browser.
- ihsw2 9y agoImportant principles require inflexibility.
- callahad 9y agoI went back and re-read the Manifesto at https://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto/ https://www.mozilla.org/about/manifesto/, and I'm not seeing an obvious place where this specific project violates any of Mozilla's principles. Would you mind saying more about your concerns in this case?
- brailsafe 9y agoI don't think it does, in part because the list is stuffed with platitudes. Except #9, which is awfully convenient.
- minikites 9y agoWhat Windows browser would you suggest instead? Chrome is made by a literal advertising company and Edge seems nice but relatively feature-poor.
- craftyguy 9y agoSadly, Firefox is still the 'lesser of all evils', even though everyone continues to get more and more evil as time moves forward.
- Feniks 9y agoYep. We're down to Safari, Edge, FF and Chrome. Everything else is just a fork of one of those.
- anfilt 9y agoPart of the problem is how complex the web stanards are these days. Try building a browser from the ground up today. Part of the issue is the stanards committees keep adding onto what was supposed to be a document format. We have added onto the spec so much that its a mess. Ironically, it was netscape that probably screwed up the web the most by adding javascript. That boat has sailed, but we keep adding more and more features to the specs.
- majewsky 9y agoChrome is a fork of Safari (is a fork of Konqueror).
- abrowne 9y agoQupZilla (to be renamed Falkon in the next major version) is an option I like. Overall it is very Firefox-like, but it is a Qt app using Qt WebEngine, which is Chromium integrated into Qt. (I've only used it on Linux and briefly on Mac, but there is a Windows build too.)
- majewsky 9y agoHow fast do they get patches in when the Chromium part has a security issue? That's usually where all these "let's just fork the last good version of $browser" or "let's just fork their engine and build a new UI around it" endeavors come crashing down in flames.
- Feniks 9y agoThey want to become a mainstream browser again. A less evil Chrome. Commendable I guess but I have no interest in supporting the internet economy.