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Great to tell people to put away their phones and not record because that really is obnoxious, but to actually confiscate phones is fascistic and shouldn’t be t

Great to tell people to put away their phones and not record because that really is obnoxious, but to actually confiscate phones is fascistic and shouldn’t be tolerated IMO. I mean who does he think he is?

monksy 9y ago
Depends on how they do it. From what I've seen, they use a company called "yondr" which basically defaces your phone for the duration of the show, or until you walk out and they unlock it for you.
Paul-ish 9y ago
They don't confiscate the phones. They put them in a locked bag and hand the bag back to you. There are places throughout the venue that you can get the back unlocked to use your phone.
- monksy 9y ago
  In other words, they don't confiscate, they deface the phones.
  - hluska 9y ago
    You've used the word 'deface' throughout this thread and I don't understand it. How is putting a phone in a bag defacing it?
    - monksy 9y ago
      You're making modifications to a physical item. (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/deface http://www.dictionary.com/browse/deface)
      - hluska 9y ago
        But, putting a phone in a bag does not modify the phone.
usrusr 9y ago
> I mean who does he think he is? A showcase user for https://www.overyondr.com https://www.overyondr.com , probably getting the service at a reduced rate, free or maybe even for some reverse payment in exchange for the publicly. Cost for yondr should be pretty much proportional to audience size (physical pouches), and Jack White might offer a very good cost/visibility ratio for them. (I don't know anything about his typical audience size, but it might lean towards the smaller end of the spectrum relative to his indisputable fame)
geebee 9y ago
I don't think it's fascistic at all. Think about it this way - I would like to trade my right to bring a cell phone into group event in exchange for the benefits I receive from participating in a group event without cell phones. If you don't like that trade, don't make it! But don't deny those who wish to engage in that transaction the right to do so by forcing them to have a "cell phones are welcome" policy. This is a rock concert. There is no coercion to attend whatsoever. You are absolutely, 100% free to decline this transaction.
- hellbanTHIS 9y ago
  I suppose. Venues won’t go for this nonsense anyway, it’s a potential legal liability, they don’t care what you do with your phone and they have all the power, not the band.
  - epicide 9y ago
    Pretty sure they can just require the band/attendees to sign away their liability.

monksy 9y ago

Depends on how they do it. From what I've seen, they use a company called "yondr" which basically defaces your phone for the duration of the show, or until you walk out and they unlock it for you.

Paul-ish 9y ago

They don't confiscate the phones. They put them in a locked bag and hand the bag back to you. There are places throughout the venue that you can get the back unlocked to use your phone.

monksy 9y ago
In other words, they don't confiscate, they deface the phones.
- hluska 9y ago
  You've used the word 'deface' throughout this thread and I don't understand it. How is putting a phone in a bag defacing it?
  - monksy 9y ago
    You're making modifications to a physical item. (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/deface http://www.dictionary.com/browse/deface)
    - hluska 9y ago
      But, putting a phone in a bag does not modify the phone.

usrusr 9y ago

> I mean who does he think he is? A showcase user for https://www.overyondr.com https://www.overyondr.com , probably getting the service at a reduced rate, free or maybe even for some reverse payment in exchange for the publicly. Cost for yondr should be pretty much proportional to audience size (physical pouches), and Jack White might offer a very good cost/visibility ratio for them. (I don't know anything about his typical audience size, but it might lean towards the smaller end of the spectrum relative to his indisputable fame)

geebee 9y ago

I don't think it's fascistic at all. Think about it this way - I would like to trade my right to bring a cell phone into group event in exchange for the benefits I receive from participating in a group event without cell phones. If you don't like that trade, don't make it! But don't deny those who wish to engage in that transaction the right to do so by forcing them to have a "cell phones are welcome" policy. This is a rock concert. There is no coercion to attend whatsoever. You are absolutely, 100% free to decline this transaction.

hellbanTHIS 9y ago
I suppose. Venues won’t go for this nonsense anyway, it’s a potential legal liability, they don’t care what you do with your phone and they have all the power, not the band.
- epicide 9y ago
  Pretty sure they can just require the band/attendees to sign away their liability.