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Which is why they also have ushers whose job it is to move those conversations out of the concert hall. I'm not sure why you disagree with someone talking about

Which is why they also have ushers whose job it is to move those conversations out of the concert hall. I'm not sure why you disagree with someone talking about Led Zeppelin based on your experience with Lisa Gerrard...

monksy 9y ago
That's where I'm 100% with you. That's what they're there for.
zimpenfish 9y ago
> Which is why they also have ushers whose job it is to move those conversations out of the concert hall. I've been to triple-digit number of gigs and that has never happened. Not once. Perhaps it's peculiar to the UK but still.
- TallGuyShort 9y ago
  And you'd complain if an artist insisted on ushers doing that? I get the feeling you're just trying to drop how many non-mainstream music events you go to.
- WalterSear 9y ago
  I've never seen it either, at triple-digit gigs in the US. It's BS - people just have a hard-on for punishing new social behaviours in others, that they don't partake in themselves. The old disruptions are 'well, what can you do?', while the new disruption are all 'think of the children!' Otherwise, they would be trying to accomodate cell phone users, and arrange things so their behaviour was less disruptive to others, rather than fighting them outright. Cell phone usage at concerts is the equivalent of taping, and people have set up dedicated taping sections at music events in the past.
- monksy 9y ago
  I've seen tons of people kicked out of venues. Most of the time the ushers are good enough to not disturb the event further when they do it.
  - DrScump 9y ago
    It depends on policy of the venue and artist and can vary. For example, a lot of concerts at SAP Arena are literally called "Zero Enforcement" where ushers are disallowed to intervene in any inter-patron situation outside of medical emergency. It ends up being a Lord of the Flies situation where the fittest do (or stop) what they want.

monksy 9y ago

That's where I'm 100% with you. That's what they're there for.

zimpenfish 9y ago

> Which is why they also have ushers whose job it is to move those conversations out of the concert hall. I've been to triple-digit number of gigs and that has never happened. Not once. Perhaps it's peculiar to the UK but still.

TallGuyShort 9y ago
And you'd complain if an artist insisted on ushers doing that? I get the feeling you're just trying to drop how many non-mainstream music events you go to.
WalterSear 9y ago
I've never seen it either, at triple-digit gigs in the US. It's BS - people just have a hard-on for punishing new social behaviours in others, that they don't partake in themselves. The old disruptions are 'well, what can you do?', while the new disruption are all 'think of the children!' Otherwise, they would be trying to accomodate cell phone users, and arrange things so their behaviour was less disruptive to others, rather than fighting them outright. Cell phone usage at concerts is the equivalent of taping, and people have set up dedicated taping sections at music events in the past.
monksy 9y ago
I've seen tons of people kicked out of venues. Most of the time the ushers are good enough to not disturb the event further when they do it.
- DrScump 9y ago
  It depends on policy of the venue and artist and can vary. For example, a lot of concerts at SAP Arena are literally called "Zero Enforcement" where ushers are disallowed to intervene in any inter-patron situation outside of medical emergency. It ends up being a Lord of the Flies situation where the fittest do (or stop) what they want.