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If you don't think the health of the fetus, and subsequently the child and adult has anything to do with poverty then I dunno what I tell ya.

by tabeth 9y ago

randomdata 9y ago
While I understand how the health of the fetus relates to poverty, I fail to see how that has anything to do with this particular discussion? We are talking about how everyone starts with nothing. The balance sheet of all brand new people to world always starts empty.
- tabeth 9y ago
  You're missing the point. Saying everyone starts off with a blank slate is like saying everyone born starts off alive. It's a useless statement. The point is that the quality of life upon birth is different. Said qualities result in the discrepancies you see today. EDIT: Furthermore, originally you stated: > The fact remains that everyone starts with nothing It's already been illustrated this is false. If you believe quality of life at birth is different, then by definition, everyone does not start off with nothing, or zero. People start off with the qualities possessed at birth.
  - randomdata 9y ago
    > You're missing the point. Technically, I made the point. I'm not sure how I can miss my own point? Granted, I may have poorly phrased it leading to others missing the point, which is my bad, but if you're not going to try and let me clarify, I'm not sure what we're doing here? > The point is that the quality of life upon birth is different. Sure. I cannot disagree with that, but it's miles away from this conversation. > It's already been illustrated this is false. I'm afraid I still don't see it. That point was made in reference to earlier discussion specifically about wealth (again, something you measure on a balance sheet, not factors like fetal health). Their parents might have wealth that can be transferred to the child, but that is not the same as starting with wealth.

If you don't think the health of the fetus, and subsequently the child and adult has anything to do with poverty then I dunno what I tell ya.

by tabeth 9y ago

If you don't think the health of the fetus, and subsequently the child and adult has anything to do with poverty then I dunno what I tell ya.

randomdata 9y ago

While I understand how the health of the fetus relates to poverty, I fail to see how that has anything to do with this particular discussion? We are talking about how everyone starts with nothing. The balance sheet of all brand new people to world always starts empty.

tabeth 9y ago
You're missing the point. Saying everyone starts off with a blank slate is like saying everyone born starts off alive. It's a useless statement. The point is that the quality of life upon birth is different. Said qualities result in the discrepancies you see today. EDIT: Furthermore, originally you stated: > The fact remains that everyone starts with nothing It's already been illustrated this is false. If you believe quality of life at birth is different, then by definition, everyone does not start off with nothing, or zero. People start off with the qualities possessed at birth.
- randomdata 9y ago
  > You're missing the point. Technically, I made the point. I'm not sure how I can miss my own point? Granted, I may have poorly phrased it leading to others missing the point, which is my bad, but if you're not going to try and let me clarify, I'm not sure what we're doing here? > The point is that the quality of life upon birth is different. Sure. I cannot disagree with that, but it's miles away from this conversation. > It's already been illustrated this is false. I'm afraid I still don't see it. That point was made in reference to earlier discussion specifically about wealth (again, something you measure on a balance sheet, not factors like fetal health). Their parents might have wealth that can be transferred to the child, but that is not the same as starting with wealth.