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> functioning fine Here is the US Overseas Security Advisory Council report on Somalia for 2017: https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=21823

> functioning fine Here is the US Overseas Security Advisory Council report on Somalia for 2017: https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=21823 https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=218... > Pervasive and violent crime is an extension of the general state of insecurity in Somalia. Serious, brutal, and often fatal crimes are common. Kidnapping and robbery are particular problems in Mogadishu, other areas in the south, and in Galmuduug and Puntland.

empath75 9y ago
For a libertarian, they're not worried about that because they think they'll have enough guns to protect their.. uh, their bitcoin miner i guess? i'm not sure how they think they'll earn money.
- nkrisc 9y ago
  Ever met a poor libertarian? They expect they'll be living in their walled compound surrounded by their private police force.
  - fredley 9y ago
    I can't remember where I first heard it, but one of the factors affecting American politics in particular is the idea that many poor people see themselves as rich people in waiting. They're going to make it, once they get their break. This of course, is false for the overwhelming majority of poor people, but still causes their vote to skew further towards measures which harm them and favour the rich than it otherwise would, because they see themselves benefitting once they do finally make it.
    - nkrisc 9y ago
      It sounds similar to a quote generally attributed to John Steinbeck, but the exact quote that gets repeated appears to be disputed: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Steinbeck#Disputed https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Steinbeck#Disputed On socialism and capitalism he is quoted as writing: > "I guess the trouble was that we didn't have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist."
    - Larrikin 9y ago
      The term you're looking for is "temporarily embarrassed millionaire"
  - arethuza 9y ago
    And what is going to stop your "private police force" from simply taking control and kicking your out (or executing you)? A contract? Edit: I would expect leadership in those circumstances to simply fall to the most effective leader in that kind of context (which I suspect would be someone from a military background) rather than someone who used to have a big bank balance. Give that a few generations and you'll end up with hereditary clan leadership and eventually "royalty" - all royal lines can usually be traced so some "stupendous badass".
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    - nkrisc 9y ago
      An excellent question. My personal answer would be, "a powerful central government through which I (or my estate) can seek remediation."
      - arethuza 9y ago
        Maybe your "powerful central government" could organise an effective police force?
    - empath75 9y ago
      In fact this has happened multiple times in Mexico where a private militia created to protect people from cartels simply takes over the drug business.

empath75 9y ago

For a libertarian, they're not worried about that because they think they'll have enough guns to protect their.. uh, their bitcoin miner i guess? i'm not sure how they think they'll earn money.

nkrisc 9y ago
Ever met a poor libertarian? They expect they'll be living in their walled compound surrounded by their private police force.
- fredley 9y ago
  I can't remember where I first heard it, but one of the factors affecting American politics in particular is the idea that many poor people see themselves as rich people in waiting. They're going to make it, once they get their break. This of course, is false for the overwhelming majority of poor people, but still causes their vote to skew further towards measures which harm them and favour the rich than it otherwise would, because they see themselves benefitting once they do finally make it.
  - nkrisc 9y ago
    It sounds similar to a quote generally attributed to John Steinbeck, but the exact quote that gets repeated appears to be disputed: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Steinbeck#Disputed https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Steinbeck#Disputed On socialism and capitalism he is quoted as writing: > "I guess the trouble was that we didn't have any self-admitted proletarians. Everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist."
  - Larrikin 9y ago
    The term you're looking for is "temporarily embarrassed millionaire"
- arethuza 9y ago
  And what is going to stop your "private police force" from simply taking control and kicking your out (or executing you)? A contract? Edit: I would expect leadership in those circumstances to simply fall to the most effective leader in that kind of context (which I suspect would be someone from a military background) rather than someone who used to have a big bank balance. Give that a few generations and you'll end up with hereditary clan leadership and eventually "royalty" - all royal lines can usually be traced so some "stupendous badass".
  - deleted 9y ago
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  - nkrisc 9y ago
    An excellent question. My personal answer would be, "a powerful central government through which I (or my estate) can seek remediation."
    - arethuza 9y ago
      Maybe your "powerful central government" could organise an effective police force?
  - empath75 9y ago
    In fact this has happened multiple times in Mexico where a private militia created to protect people from cartels simply takes over the drug business.