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What evidence? There's a reason the mutation that kept lactase production "on" spread so well. Today many of the healthiest cultures on Earth consume lots of da

What evidence? There's a reason the mutation that kept lactase production "on" spread so well. Today many of the healthiest cultures on Earth consume lots of dairy. France with the most butter, Greek with the most cheese, etc.

cageface 9y ago
The healthiest populations in the world consume virtually no dairy. Okinawans, vegans, 7-day adventists etc. The Mediterrean diet is largely vegetarian: http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2017-02-16/10-commandments-of-the-real-mediterranean-diet/7541786 http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2017-02-16/10-commandments... 75% of the world's population loses their ability to digest lactose after infancy: http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/what-is-lactose-intolerance http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/what-is-lactose-in... Milk is for babies. Cow's milk is for cow babies.
- antgiant 9y ago
  Vegetarian ≠ Vegan. Lots of dairy in the standard Vegetarian diet. The link you provided to the Mediterranean diet included lots of dairy (cheese, yogurt, etc.). Also, a lifetime of personal experience says that Seventh-day Adventists eat quite a lot of dairy.
  - cageface 9y ago
    I'm vegan so I know the difference. The Adventists are often cited in nutrition studies and the vegan subgroup of Adventists is the healthiest. Quoting directly from the link I provided: If you think the Mediterranean diet looks a little low on dairy foods, you're right. It's certainly lower in dairy than is currently advised in the National Dietary Guidelines ...But traditional Greek Mediterranean populations got calcium from other sources: sardines and other small fish which were eaten with their bones, and from leafy greens (which contain only a little calcium but the large volume of the greens eaten meant the amount added up).
- simonsarris 9y ago
  Every country on the Mediterranean consumes an enormous amount of dairy. Greece consumes more cheese per capita than any nation, and Malta, the island in the middle of the med, comes in third. http://www.dummies.com/food-drink/special-diets/annual-cheese-consumption-by-country/ http://www.dummies.com/food-drink/special-diets/annual-chees...
  - cageface 9y ago
    Goat milk is healthier than cow milk: https://www.livestrong.com/article/402645-what-are-the-health-benefits-of-eating-goat-cheese/ https://www.livestrong.com/article/402645-what-are-the-healt... At least some Greeks appear to have a genetic mutation that shields them from the worst effects of cholesterol and saturated fat in cheese: https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/809612/greeks-unique-gene-protected-from-heart-disease https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/809612/greeks-un... Even the recent cheerleading studies for cheese caution that eating it in large quantities is dangerous: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2017/12/06/is-cheese-really-good-for-the-heart-now/#27c9daa065af https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2017/12/06/is-chee... And health issues aside, dairy is cruel: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/30/dairy-scary-public-farming-calves-pens-alternatives https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/30/dairy-...

cageface 9y ago

The healthiest populations in the world consume virtually no dairy. Okinawans, vegans, 7-day adventists etc. The Mediterrean diet is largely vegetarian: http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2017-02-16/10-commandments-of-the-real-mediterranean-diet/7541786 http://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2017-02-16/10-commandments... 75% of the world's population loses their ability to digest lactose after infancy: http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/what-is-lactose-intolerance http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/what-is-lactose-in... Milk is for babies. Cow's milk is for cow babies.

antgiant 9y ago
Vegetarian ≠ Vegan. Lots of dairy in the standard Vegetarian diet. The link you provided to the Mediterranean diet included lots of dairy (cheese, yogurt, etc.). Also, a lifetime of personal experience says that Seventh-day Adventists eat quite a lot of dairy.
- cageface 9y ago
  I'm vegan so I know the difference. The Adventists are often cited in nutrition studies and the vegan subgroup of Adventists is the healthiest. Quoting directly from the link I provided: If you think the Mediterranean diet looks a little low on dairy foods, you're right. It's certainly lower in dairy than is currently advised in the National Dietary Guidelines ...But traditional Greek Mediterranean populations got calcium from other sources: sardines and other small fish which were eaten with their bones, and from leafy greens (which contain only a little calcium but the large volume of the greens eaten meant the amount added up).
simonsarris 9y ago
Every country on the Mediterranean consumes an enormous amount of dairy. Greece consumes more cheese per capita than any nation, and Malta, the island in the middle of the med, comes in third. http://www.dummies.com/food-drink/special-diets/annual-cheese-consumption-by-country/ http://www.dummies.com/food-drink/special-diets/annual-chees...
- cageface 9y ago
  Goat milk is healthier than cow milk: https://www.livestrong.com/article/402645-what-are-the-health-benefits-of-eating-goat-cheese/ https://www.livestrong.com/article/402645-what-are-the-healt... At least some Greeks appear to have a genetic mutation that shields them from the worst effects of cholesterol and saturated fat in cheese: https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/809612/greeks-unique-gene-protected-from-heart-disease https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/809612/greeks-un... Even the recent cheerleading studies for cheese caution that eating it in large quantities is dangerous: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2017/12/06/is-cheese-really-good-for-the-heart-now/#27c9daa065af https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2017/12/06/is-chee... And health issues aside, dairy is cruel: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/30/dairy-scary-public-farming-calves-pens-alternatives https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/30/dairy-...