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>>> I got the lyrics from someone in another prayer room in another city, followed by a message saying basically "Oh no! I shouldn't have sent it to you! It's c

>>> I got the lyrics from someone in another prayer room in another city, followed by a message saying basically "Oh no! I shouldn't have sent it to you! It's copyright and we don't have the license to share those songs so don't ever share this to anybody!" The reason is that the original English author didn't authorise the translation, so what they're doing is breaking copyright and they're afraid that if they become famous, they'll get caught. Covers are compulsory in the United States. The requirement is that you have to pay a certain portion of the profits to the copyright holder.

peterburkimsher 9y ago
I can pay 100% of the profits to the copyright holder! I'm not making any money, so 100% of zero is still $0. The whole thing is fan-made. But the prayer rooms are arguably a "public performance", and that comes with even more complicated licensing issues. I'm trying to contact the original musicians, but Hillsong and Bethel don't answer their email - they redirect all enquiries to CCLI, who don't operate in this country. So there's no way to pay to make it legal.
- geofft 9y ago
  One thing to note is that at least in the US, the compulsory licensing scheme for recordings of covers involves paying a fixed amount per copy (a couple of cents), even if you charge nothing at all. (Also, it doesn't apply to things that aren't recordings at all, including live performances, as you say, or written or electronic copies of sheet music / lyrics.)
  - dizzystar 9y ago
    I think his main concern is about the difference in countries, as it appears he is talking about Taiwan. You absolutely have to pay performance royalties for live performances. You can ask the dozens of bars that has been sued over this, and go to nearly any bar in LA that bans cover material (at open mics even) over this issue. It's mainly about paying ASCAP and BMI a license I would think churches are a different story entirely as that is a non-profit center. In any case, if you post a cover on YouTube, you will be fine. The site wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for the legal wrangling they did to ensure songwriters got paid something.

peterburkimsher 9y ago

I can pay 100% of the profits to the copyright holder! I'm not making any money, so 100% of zero is still $0. The whole thing is fan-made. But the prayer rooms are arguably a "public performance", and that comes with even more complicated licensing issues. I'm trying to contact the original musicians, but Hillsong and Bethel don't answer their email - they redirect all enquiries to CCLI, who don't operate in this country. So there's no way to pay to make it legal.

geofft 9y ago
One thing to note is that at least in the US, the compulsory licensing scheme for recordings of covers involves paying a fixed amount per copy (a couple of cents), even if you charge nothing at all. (Also, it doesn't apply to things that aren't recordings at all, including live performances, as you say, or written or electronic copies of sheet music / lyrics.)
- dizzystar 9y ago
  I think his main concern is about the difference in countries, as it appears he is talking about Taiwan. You absolutely have to pay performance royalties for live performances. You can ask the dozens of bars that has been sued over this, and go to nearly any bar in LA that bans cover material (at open mics even) over this issue. It's mainly about paying ASCAP and BMI a license I would think churches are a different story entirely as that is a non-profit center. In any case, if you post a cover on YouTube, you will be fine. The site wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for the legal wrangling they did to ensure songwriters got paid something.