I dont see a lot of Java/Pascal animosity, although as a full time Rubyist I could at least tip my hat at the arrogance. I'd say ObjC and Flash/Flex/Fusion are

I dont see a lot of Java/Pascal animosity, although as a full time Rubyist I could at least tip my hat at the arrogance. I'd say ObjC and Flash/Flex/Fusion are absent and would put the Ruby guys on their feet - simply because these guys (on average) make 20k more.