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This is great news for developers who use Apple products. I'm happy they're trying to improve the cross-platform story but I'm not sure I could ever completely

This is great news for developers who use Apple products. I'm happy they're trying to improve the cross-platform story but I'm not sure I could ever completely trust the ecosystem when it's so tightly bound to MacOS/iOS (standard library still not complete, 3rd party libraries may only work or be well tested on Apple platforms, new features may take time to land on other platforms.)

Cyberdog 9y ago
> standard library still not complete Define "complete." I would say if you count the Foundation library - which ships with Swift - as part of the standard library, things are pretty darn complete. > new features may take time to land on other platforms Not as far as Swift itself is concerned. Ever since Swift went OSS, new releases land for Linux and macOS at the same time.
- euyyn 9y ago
  Is there already NSURLSession (or Swift's equivalent) for Linux?
  - veidr 9y ago
    Yes, and there has been for a while now. However, (as you might already know, since you chose the NSURLSession example), it's not 100% feature-complete when compared to the macOS or iOS version. Here's one example of where you have to do (or at least, I had to do on 2017-07-12) #if !os(Linux) to account for platform differences: https://github.com/soracom/soracom-sdk-swift/blob/master/Sources/Request.swift#L291 https://github.com/soracom/soracom-sdk-swift/blob/master/Sou... You will encounter that kind of thing from time to time if you use Swift and Foundation on Linux. Still, the Foundation library is highly usable on Linux, and is vastly ahead of where I expected they would be by now when they announced it. But there are still some things that are not implemented. They actually do have a good status page about this topic specifically: https://github.com/apple/swift-corelibs-foundation/blob/master/Docs/Status.md https://github.com/apple/swift-corelibs-foundation/blob/mast...
- beefsack 9y ago
  There is a significant amount of functionality in Foundation unavailable on other platforms: https://github.com/apple/swift-corelibs-foundation/blob/master/Docs/Status.md https://github.com/apple/swift-corelibs-foundation/blob/mast...
  - Cyberdog 9y ago
    Numbers-wise, yes. Day-to-day-usage-without-a-trivial-workaround-wise, no.
bbrian 9y ago
I hope it becomes great news for all developers. Swift is a dream to work with. It's certainly the closest compiled language I've used to the English language.

Cyberdog 9y ago

> standard library still not complete Define "complete." I would say if you count the Foundation library - which ships with Swift - as part of the standard library, things are pretty darn complete. > new features may take time to land on other platforms Not as far as Swift itself is concerned. Ever since Swift went OSS, new releases land for Linux and macOS at the same time.

euyyn 9y ago
Is there already NSURLSession (or Swift's equivalent) for Linux?
- veidr 9y ago
  Yes, and there has been for a while now. However, (as you might already know, since you chose the NSURLSession example), it's not 100% feature-complete when compared to the macOS or iOS version. Here's one example of where you have to do (or at least, I had to do on 2017-07-12) #if !os(Linux) to account for platform differences: https://github.com/soracom/soracom-sdk-swift/blob/master/Sources/Request.swift#L291 https://github.com/soracom/soracom-sdk-swift/blob/master/Sou... You will encounter that kind of thing from time to time if you use Swift and Foundation on Linux. Still, the Foundation library is highly usable on Linux, and is vastly ahead of where I expected they would be by now when they announced it. But there are still some things that are not implemented. They actually do have a good status page about this topic specifically: https://github.com/apple/swift-corelibs-foundation/blob/master/Docs/Status.md https://github.com/apple/swift-corelibs-foundation/blob/mast...
beefsack 9y ago
There is a significant amount of functionality in Foundation unavailable on other platforms: https://github.com/apple/swift-corelibs-foundation/blob/master/Docs/Status.md https://github.com/apple/swift-corelibs-foundation/blob/mast...
- Cyberdog 9y ago
  Numbers-wise, yes. Day-to-day-usage-without-a-trivial-workaround-wise, no.

bbrian 9y ago

I hope it becomes great news for all developers. Swift is a dream to work with. It's certainly the closest compiled language I've used to the English language.