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Desperate people are to blame for being desperate?

dandare 9y ago
So your solution is to take away the job from them? Apparently, the minimum wage laws squeezed them out of the job market and the unregulated online job is their only hope. Or did I miss the part where you volunteered to subsidize their low-value low-skill job? Wait, I know, your solution is to force ME to subsidize their low-value low-skill job, am I right? :D
- atonse 9y ago
  Please cite where they said that minimum wage laws cost these people their jobs. If you can’t afford to pay someone an already offensively low cost of $7.25 an hour or even $15 an hour, I mean, how badly is your business being run?
  - Ascetik 9y ago
    Exactly! This is essentially wild-west sweatshop extortion that is exploiting desperate people. It is totally unethical and unjust. These companies should be offering a reasonable wage for a reasonable amount of work. Not 0.80$ for an hour of work (that is totally unjust).
- chockZ 9y ago
  Don't I already subsidize them by paying taxes? Large tech companies get subsidized by tax incentives which get offset by the taxes I pay. My taxes also go towards food and housing subsidies for those living below poverty levels.
- AlexandrB 9y ago
  > Apparently, the minimum wage laws squeezed them out of the job market... Actually the disconnect between productivity and pay [1] probably squeezed them out of the job marker. When workers are producing more, but not making more money, there's no one to buy all the extra goods and services they produce. Companies and investors end up banking all the excess instead of investing in additional production. > ...and the unregulated online job is their only hope. So supply-side economics has failed (as predicted), but the solution is to revert to industrial revolution era labor laws? That doesn't really follow. > Wait, I know, your solution is to force ME to subsidize their low-value low-skill job, am I right? Well why not? Everybody else is already subsidizing your "high-value, high-skill" job through limits on skilled immigration and stringent IP laws. Share and share alike, right? [1] http://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/ http://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/
  - dandare 9y ago
    So you fundamentally deny the existence of any activity that is worth less than the minimum wage? Please explain to me how the productivity of a street sweeper magically increases with when the increases in minimum wage.
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So your solution is to take away the job from them? Apparently, the minimum wage laws squeezed them out of the job market and the unregulated online job is their only hope. Or did I miss the part where you volunteered to subsidize their low-value low-skill job? Wait, I know, your solution is to force ME to subsidize their low-value low-skill job, am I right? :D

atonse 9y ago
Please cite where they said that minimum wage laws cost these people their jobs. If you can’t afford to pay someone an already offensively low cost of $7.25 an hour or even $15 an hour, I mean, how badly is your business being run?
- Ascetik 9y ago
  Exactly! This is essentially wild-west sweatshop extortion that is exploiting desperate people. It is totally unethical and unjust. These companies should be offering a reasonable wage for a reasonable amount of work. Not 0.80$ for an hour of work (that is totally unjust).
chockZ 9y ago
Don't I already subsidize them by paying taxes? Large tech companies get subsidized by tax incentives which get offset by the taxes I pay. My taxes also go towards food and housing subsidies for those living below poverty levels.
AlexandrB 9y ago
> Apparently, the minimum wage laws squeezed them out of the job market... Actually the disconnect between productivity and pay [1] probably squeezed them out of the job marker. When workers are producing more, but not making more money, there's no one to buy all the extra goods and services they produce. Companies and investors end up banking all the excess instead of investing in additional production. > ...and the unregulated online job is their only hope. So supply-side economics has failed (as predicted), but the solution is to revert to industrial revolution era labor laws? That doesn't really follow. > Wait, I know, your solution is to force ME to subsidize their low-value low-skill job, am I right? Well why not? Everybody else is already subsidizing your "high-value, high-skill" job through limits on skilled immigration and stringent IP laws. Share and share alike, right? [1] http://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/ http://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/
- dandare 9y ago
  So you fundamentally deny the existence of any activity that is worth less than the minimum wage? Please explain to me how the productivity of a street sweeper magically increases with when the increases in minimum wage.
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