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Hmm. I could show where your dashed-off summary is wrong by knocking down the other three, or educating you on Ted's context. I'll go with education, as Ted wou
by textfiles 9y ago
Hmm. I could show where your dashed-off summary is wrong by knocking down the other three, or educating you on Ted's context. I'll go with education, as Ted would prefer.
You are confusing "I heard their names" with "They made the thing I use". Berners-Lee didn't write the browser you use. Kay isn't hard at work on the new iPhone. and Engelbart doesn't pop into the Logitech offices to see how the new controls are going.
Nelson wrote multiple critical works of theory and practice, edited very influential magazines, coded prototypes and processes that were then re-used or modified as time went on, and has continually spoken on his principles and ideas behind the interface of humans and machines. He has stressed, for over half a century, the importance of the treatment and access of information, which turns out to be the top priority of the human race in the contemporary sphere.
Ted's name has been brought up in meetings you're not invited to and events you can't attend, as well as ones you could be. His influence is gigantic, and the fact he freely shares his ideas past the age of 80 is a gift some of us appreciate very much.
He doesn't strut across a stage next to a product he yelled at others to make. That doesn't make him less of a giant.
- randallsquared 9y ago> He doesn't strut across a stage next to a product he yelled at others to make. Is that what you believe Berners-Lee, Engelbart, and Kay were doing?
- wcarron 9y agoI think he kind of fell off-topic there, too. I interpreted it as a very non-sequitur dig at Steve Jobs. Either way, not relevant to the conversation.
- textfiles 9y agoI was merely attesting to the two main criteria that many modern students of technology equate with "greatness"; either a straight-up declaration of a Name, or by seeing the Great One on some sort of blackish back-lit stage with a product announcement. Keep up.
- herdrick 9y ago"Keep up" is a really contemptuous thing to say. Could you edit to remove it please?
- dvanduzer 9y agoYou're not generally wrong about tone. But: > He has stressed, for over half a century, the importance of the treatment and access of information, which turns out to be the top priority of the human race in the contemporary sphere. Jason was being as polite as he could to someone coming after Ted. It's not unreasonable to emphasize. More politely: Please catch up.
- tudorw 9y agoThanks for putting so well what I lacked the patience to write, I don't think the OP deserves it, the comment is bordering on trolling, is unsubstantiated, poorly conceived and poorly researched by someone who claims to have an interest in these things.