4 ms·

So what? 30 sec download time.

chachra 9y ago
And a 30-40 minute install!
Cu3PO42 9y ago
Or multiple hours for those of us who are still plagued with slow internet at home. Luckily it's not that bad for me anymore, but I still sympathise with everyone with slow connection speeds, because you can't "just" download an update.
- needusername 9y ago
  I though most of the developed world is on 1 Gbit / 1 Gbit FTTH at this point.
  - cmurf 9y ago
    Why do you think this? The U.S. is among the worst in the "developed" world. More specifically it's highly fragmented. https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-connection-speed-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-... https://www.recode.net/2017/9/7/16264430/fastest-broadband-speeds-ookla-city-internet-service-provider https://www.recode.net/2017/9/7/16264430/fastest-broadband-s...
  - mwilliaams 9y ago
    That is utterly incorrect. I get 15% of that under ideal circumstances.
    - quicklyfrozen 9y ago
      150Mb/s sounds pretty good...I get about 10% of that.
      - mwilliaams 9y ago
        Parent comment said 1Gbit, not 1Gbyte. I too get about 15Mb/s
  - bigiain 9y ago
    Interesting definition of "developed"... I'm in Sydney, at home my fastest option is ADSL2+ which gets me 15-16Mbit on a good day (7-8 if it's rained much recently...) My ISP contacted me mid last year to offer pre-signups for our "National Broadband Network" on Sept 4th. A couple of months ago it became public that the old HFC cables they were planning to use were completely not up to the task, with major problems reported pretty much everywhere it'd already been rolled out, and they've now stopped and new HFC rollout using that (Optus) coax for at least 9 months. I _think_ Sydney Australia counts as "the developed world", but even 100Mbit for me right now is at least a year away...
  - ldrndll 9y ago
    Funnily enough, I had 100mbps fibre when I lived in Africa. Now that I live in the UK my best option is 12mbps ADSL.
  - koenigdavidmj 9y ago
    I'm in freaking Seattle and this isn't available in most of the city limits.
  - Cu3PO42 9y ago
    Hardly. I live in Germany and I was able to upgrade to 50,000kbit/s, of which I effectively get ~35,000 most of the time, only last year. Before that it was 5,000 for a few years and before that I was happy to have 1,000. And I don't live in the country either, I'm a 10 minute walk away from a technical university und multiple research institutes.
- bigiain 9y ago
  Slow internet and/or multiple macOS devices... (3 Apple laptops, 2 mac minis, and an iMac hanging off my ADSL...)
  - infogulch 9y ago
    The ability for windows 10 updates to be shared across computers in a network (signatures are still verified of course) doesn't sound so bad in cases like this.
    - josh64 9y ago
      High Sierra has an option for a Mac to cache updates and serve them over the local network to other macs. This feature used to only be in macOS Server but is now in normal macOS too.
      - bigiain 9y ago
        Really? Cool! Thans for pointing it out. (goes googling for how to make sure I'm using this...)
na85 9y ago
For you, maybe. Attitudes like this are why it's okay for websites to have a 1 MB javascript payload.
- atonse 9y ago
  A lot fewer people complain about a 1 MB image payload than they do about a 1MB js payload. Why is that?

And a 30-40 minute install!

Or multiple hours for those of us who are still plagued with slow internet at home. Luckily it's not that bad for me anymore, but I still sympathise with everyone with slow connection speeds, because you can't "just" download an update.

needusername 9y ago
I though most of the developed world is on 1 Gbit / 1 Gbit FTTH at this point.
- cmurf 9y ago
  Why do you think this? The U.S. is among the worst in the "developed" world. More specifically it's highly fragmented. https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-connection-speed-in-the-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-... https://www.recode.net/2017/9/7/16264430/fastest-broadband-speeds-ookla-city-internet-service-provider https://www.recode.net/2017/9/7/16264430/fastest-broadband-s...
- mwilliaams 9y ago
  That is utterly incorrect. I get 15% of that under ideal circumstances.
  - quicklyfrozen 9y ago
    150Mb/s sounds pretty good...I get about 10% of that.
    - mwilliaams 9y ago
      Parent comment said 1Gbit, not 1Gbyte. I too get about 15Mb/s
- bigiain 9y ago
  Interesting definition of "developed"... I'm in Sydney, at home my fastest option is ADSL2+ which gets me 15-16Mbit on a good day (7-8 if it's rained much recently...) My ISP contacted me mid last year to offer pre-signups for our "National Broadband Network" on Sept 4th. A couple of months ago it became public that the old HFC cables they were planning to use were completely not up to the task, with major problems reported pretty much everywhere it'd already been rolled out, and they've now stopped and new HFC rollout using that (Optus) coax for at least 9 months. I _think_ Sydney Australia counts as "the developed world", but even 100Mbit for me right now is at least a year away...
- ldrndll 9y ago
  Funnily enough, I had 100mbps fibre when I lived in Africa. Now that I live in the UK my best option is 12mbps ADSL.
- koenigdavidmj 9y ago
  I'm in freaking Seattle and this isn't available in most of the city limits.
- Cu3PO42 9y ago
  Hardly. I live in Germany and I was able to upgrade to 50,000kbit/s, of which I effectively get ~35,000 most of the time, only last year. Before that it was 5,000 for a few years and before that I was happy to have 1,000. And I don't live in the country either, I'm a 10 minute walk away from a technical university und multiple research institutes.
bigiain 9y ago
Slow internet and/or multiple macOS devices... (3 Apple laptops, 2 mac minis, and an iMac hanging off my ADSL...)
- infogulch 9y ago
  The ability for windows 10 updates to be shared across computers in a network (signatures are still verified of course) doesn't sound so bad in cases like this.
  - josh64 9y ago
    High Sierra has an option for a Mac to cache updates and serve them over the local network to other macs. This feature used to only be in macOS Server but is now in normal macOS too.
    - bigiain 9y ago
      Really? Cool! Thans for pointing it out. (goes googling for how to make sure I'm using this...)

na85 9y ago

For you, maybe. Attitudes like this are why it's okay for websites to have a 1 MB javascript payload.

atonse 9y ago
A lot fewer people complain about a 1 MB image payload than they do about a 1MB js payload. Why is that?