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People who use Uber, AirBnB, Deliveroo and similar companies are only fuelling this race to the bottom. Maybe one day it will catch up to them, and then it will

by gaius 9y ago

People who use Uber, AirBnB, Deliveroo and similar companies are only fuelling this race to the bottom. Maybe one day it will catch up to them, and then it will be too late. Use your leverage while you still have it, Comrades.

tghw 9y ago
It's not a race to the bottom. It's a correction. Why should your health care be determined by your employer? It's a ludicrous system that should have died decades ago.
- gaius 9y ago
  Why should your health care be determined by your employer? In the UK it’s provided by the NHS but these companies systematically dodge employer’s NI.
- mywittyname 9y ago
  It is both.
  - bronson 9y ago
    A correction to the bottom?
    - Chaebixi 9y ago
      Yes, a correction to the most dehumanized form of employer-employee relationship possible, which is following the logic of the market (dominated by asymmetric information and power) to its end.
- untog 9y ago
  > Why should your health care be determined by your employer? It's a ludicrous system that should have died decades ago. Yeah but it's being replaced by insurance that is utterly unaffordable for a lot of contract employees. If we want to decouple health insurance and employers (and we should) then we should be proactively working out what that looks like in the future.
  - FireBeyond 9y ago
    > utterly unaffordable for a lot of contract employees Caused in part by the issues of employability of (some) chronically ill people, driving up costs, and making "individual" plans de facto "high risk pool plans". Which would be helped by, as you said (and I agree): > decouple health insurance and employer
cbeach 9y ago
It’s not a race to the bottom. People who provide services using apps like Uber, AirBnB etc could have chose other ways to sell their services. They choose those apps because they offered the best balance of compensation and flexibility. If holier-than-thou types try to ban these apps based on their own worldview, millions will suffer the loss of their first choice and be forced to accept their second choice - or unemployment.

by gaius 9y ago

tghw 9y ago

It's not a race to the bottom. It's a correction. Why should your health care be determined by your employer? It's a ludicrous system that should have died decades ago.

gaius 9y ago
Why should your health care be determined by your employer? In the UK it’s provided by the NHS but these companies systematically dodge employer’s NI.
mywittyname 9y ago
It is both.
- bronson 9y ago
  A correction to the bottom?
  - Chaebixi 9y ago
    Yes, a correction to the most dehumanized form of employer-employee relationship possible, which is following the logic of the market (dominated by asymmetric information and power) to its end.
untog 9y ago
> Why should your health care be determined by your employer? It's a ludicrous system that should have died decades ago. Yeah but it's being replaced by insurance that is utterly unaffordable for a lot of contract employees. If we want to decouple health insurance and employers (and we should) then we should be proactively working out what that looks like in the future.
- FireBeyond 9y ago
  > utterly unaffordable for a lot of contract employees Caused in part by the issues of employability of (some) chronically ill people, driving up costs, and making "individual" plans de facto "high risk pool plans". Which would be helped by, as you said (and I agree): > decouple health insurance and employer

cbeach 9y ago

It’s not a race to the bottom. People who provide services using apps like Uber, AirBnB etc could have chose other ways to sell their services. They choose those apps because they offered the best balance of compensation and flexibility. If holier-than-thou types try to ban these apps based on their own worldview, millions will suffer the loss of their first choice and be forced to accept their second choice - or unemployment.