> Watch videos without flash? I actually preferred Flash, because it was self-contained: an HTML page with an embedded Flash object was still a real HTML page,

> Watch videos without flash? I actually preferred Flash, because it was self-contained: an HTML page with an embedded Flash object was still a real HTML page, and I could enable just that Flash object. With JavaScript, typically the entire page requires JavaScript in order to do anything. > But do enjoy the 'no download', 'run anywhere' nature of web-applications, and, often, I'm willing to trade a bit more power for them, because as a heavily BSD/Linux user the alternative is not having anything at all. That's an excellent point. I was recently reading through some of my old blog posts, and I was surprised by how much I welcomed web apps at the time, for exactly the reason you mention: I could use them from Linux. There's a lot to be said for the idea of a relatively secure cross-platform application-delivery technology. What I'm unconvinced of is that HTTP+HTML+TLS+JavaScript is that technology.