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I stand by the claim we have 2/3 market share in the self-hosted git market. The claim is now linked to a page that contains the details https://about.gitlab.co

by sytse 9y ago

I stand by the claim we have 2/3 market share in the self-hosted git market. The claim is now linked to a page that contains the details https://about.gitlab.com/is-it-any-good/ https://about.gitlab.com/is-it-any-good/

dominotw 9y ago
buddybuild and bitrise are not representative of * all * self-hosted git market. Your claim is totally absurd. See responses to your similar comment here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704055 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704055 Also discounting jenkins as "not modern"( whatever that means) and declaring yourself as number one is so dishonest. You "standing by it" means nothing. Why is so important to you push these lies, I don't get it.
- sytse 9y ago
  buddybuild and bitrise data probably has a bias in it. But we didn't find much else to go on. If you of anyone else knows of something we should use instead please let me know. I think that since the blue ocean update to Jenkins they have added lot of the next generation features. I'll either specify the claim better or lange it later today.
  - dominotw 9y ago
    > But we didn't find much else to go on. Don't make claims based on unreliable data. I am not sure how else to express this. see similar comments here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704407 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704407
    - sytse 9y ago
      No data is perfect, we consider the data reliable. As promised I changed the wording of our CI/CD claims https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/commit/64ce89fd740daf49580f1137d79b37af2e9cdc72 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/commit/64ce89fd...
      - dominotw 9y ago
        > buddybuild and bitrise data probably has a bias in it. > we consider the data reliable. I give up!
user15672 9y ago
Bitrise seem to deal with a niche market (mobile development), so claiming their study shows a general trend in the self hosted git market is a stretch at best. I'd imagine boring old git itself and non-website backed things like gitosis are still a massive part of the overall install base. In any case, the claim that gitlab's on 2/3 market share just screams disingenuous marketing fluff to me and cheapens gitlab as a whole.
- sytse 9y ago
  According to Google Trends https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldyvpxa0vbvelie/Screenshot%202018-01-23%2021.59.32.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldyvpxa0vbvelie/Screenshot%202018-... Gitosis reached 4% of GitLab's popularity in 2011 and is now at 0%. If course Google Trends is not equal to installed base. But based on our experience I also don't think gitosis still has a massive installed base.
  - user15672 9y ago
    You are correct, Google trends is pretty much irrelevant here. You would be surprised by Gitosis (and many others you've dismissed). It's pretty much in every company I've worked in over the last 7 years. It's never well liked, but it works just fine. Most companies don't need bells and whistles that come with GUI based git installs, so they don't waste the money switching away to them.

by sytse 9y ago

dominotw 9y ago

buddybuild and bitrise are not representative of * all * self-hosted git market. Your claim is totally absurd. See responses to your similar comment here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704055 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704055 Also discounting jenkins as "not modern"( whatever that means) and declaring yourself as number one is so dishonest. You "standing by it" means nothing. Why is so important to you push these lies, I don't get it.

sytse 9y ago
buddybuild and bitrise data probably has a bias in it. But we didn't find much else to go on. If you of anyone else knows of something we should use instead please let me know. I think that since the blue ocean update to Jenkins they have added lot of the next generation features. I'll either specify the claim better or lange it later today.
- dominotw 9y ago
  > But we didn't find much else to go on. Don't make claims based on unreliable data. I am not sure how else to express this. see similar comments here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704407 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704407
  - sytse 9y ago
    No data is perfect, we consider the data reliable. As promised I changed the wording of our CI/CD claims https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/commit/64ce89fd740daf49580f1137d79b37af2e9cdc72 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/commit/64ce89fd...
    - dominotw 9y ago
      > buddybuild and bitrise data probably has a bias in it. > we consider the data reliable. I give up!

user15672 9y ago

Bitrise seem to deal with a niche market (mobile development), so claiming their study shows a general trend in the self hosted git market is a stretch at best. I'd imagine boring old git itself and non-website backed things like gitosis are still a massive part of the overall install base. In any case, the claim that gitlab's on 2/3 market share just screams disingenuous marketing fluff to me and cheapens gitlab as a whole.

sytse 9y ago
According to Google Trends https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldyvpxa0vbvelie/Screenshot%202018-01-23%2021.59.32.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldyvpxa0vbvelie/Screenshot%202018-... Gitosis reached 4% of GitLab's popularity in 2011 and is now at 0%. If course Google Trends is not equal to installed base. But based on our experience I also don't think gitosis still has a massive installed base.
- user15672 9y ago
  You are correct, Google trends is pretty much irrelevant here. You would be surprised by Gitosis (and many others you've dismissed). It's pretty much in every company I've worked in over the last 7 years. It's never well liked, but it works just fine. Most companies don't need bells and whistles that come with GUI based git installs, so they don't waste the money switching away to them.