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> I suppose now you can play 3d games? No one does this. We have Steam, GOG, Origin, etc. Why use a substandard implementation of GL? > Watch videos without f

> I suppose now you can play 3d games? No one does this. We have Steam, GOG, Origin, etc. Why use a substandard implementation of GL? > Watch videos without flash? This was possible of out the box in 2001's Windows XP with Internet Explorer. You just used <object> instead of <video>, have people forgotten this? Nothing has significantly changed in the last decade or more, except for the fact that people think sending several megs down the pipe is acceptable.

toyg 9y ago
> > I suppose now you can play 3d games? > No one does this. I'm afraid you're wrong there. Browser games are wildly popular around the world, even 3d ones. You're also failing to mention that <object> required non-standard third-party plugins installed. The novelty of <video> is that browsers are supposed to guarantee those tags will work all the time, without any extra effort required. That is a big step forward, although more from a political rather than technical point of view. It's a dramatic step forward in security, among other things. > Nothing has significantly changed in the last decade Sounds very much like "any technology introduced before you're 30 is natural and necessary; anything developed later is an abomination and should be banned" :) I hate to say it, but the world has changed in the last decade: the iPhone happened. People now experience computing through mobile first. GMail and GMaps had already changed what people expect from the web, but mobile completed the upheaval. We can disagree on the direction of travel (JS becoming the assembly of the web is, imho, a perversion; like http 2, it feels like an expensive hack implemented on top of technologies that were not meant to be used like that), but saying that nothing has changed is simply wrong.
- pjc50 9y ago
  <video> is great - and doesn't require javascript! But developers seem to layer it on top anyway.
detaro 9y ago
Unity has WebGL export, and people do use that.

toyg 9y ago

> > I suppose now you can play 3d games? > No one does this. I'm afraid you're wrong there. Browser games are wildly popular around the world, even 3d ones. You're also failing to mention that <object> required non-standard third-party plugins installed. The novelty of <video> is that browsers are supposed to guarantee those tags will work all the time, without any extra effort required. That is a big step forward, although more from a political rather than technical point of view. It's a dramatic step forward in security, among other things. > Nothing has significantly changed in the last decade Sounds very much like "any technology introduced before you're 30 is natural and necessary; anything developed later is an abomination and should be banned" :) I hate to say it, but the world has changed in the last decade: the iPhone happened. People now experience computing through mobile first. GMail and GMaps had already changed what people expect from the web, but mobile completed the upheaval. We can disagree on the direction of travel (JS becoming the assembly of the web is, imho, a perversion; like http 2, it feels like an expensive hack implemented on top of technologies that were not meant to be used like that), but saying that nothing has changed is simply wrong.

pjc50 9y ago
<video> is great - and doesn't require javascript! But developers seem to layer it on top anyway.

detaro 9y ago

Unity has WebGL export, and people do use that.