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That's really cheap. With really good features. However, what keeps me on Linode is that they have a London datacentre with excellent peering. I've seen 9ms pi
by oliwarner 9y ago
That's really cheap. With really good features.
However, what keeps me on Linode is that they have a London datacentre with excellent peering. I've seen 9ms pings, 150 miles away. Makes for seriously fast websites (in concert with good development processes).
Hetzner responds in 31-35ms from here. That might be Good Enough™ for many applications but it's not as special.
I've never been this tempted to jump ship though. Hopefully some of these features will become industry standard.
- bootcat 9y agoI am also on Linode as its price point is its strength. Really considering if Hetzner would charge forex on US cards, otherwise, seems like a good plan.
- bootcat 9y agoDoes anybody know if Hetzner charges forex on US debit/credit cards ?
- kondro 9y agoThat’s actually up to your credit card company, not the merchant.
- dx034 9y agoThey charge in € so you need a card without FX fee.
- snuxoll 9y agoDiscover and Capital One are probably the best cards to use for foreign purchases if you live in the US (I only use my Discover IT or Capital One QuickSilver for purchases in foreign currency or that charge from a foreign bank), some banks offer no-FX fee cards but typically they're tied to specific rewards programs (often travel) that might not be as useful.
- aloisamae 9y agoI pay Hetzner via PayPal, and I haven't had any fees attached. Online.net however charges a card directly so my bank does charge it as a foreign transaction and adds a percentage.
- oliwarner 9y agoPaypal will happily do the FX for you "fee-free". That's because they fleece you with the exchange rate. You're paying a many-points worse exchange rate, even against a stabilised market average. For one recent actual example, Paypal recently gave me 1.339 USD for 1 GBP in a transaction. The raw market rate that day was 1.421. The week mean was ~1.410. Paypal already holds this cash, they're not exchanging jack on the open market. A pre-pay FX card —shop around— would have given me $1.40/£ on that date. Paypal work like a bookmakers. They cover the entire spread with very little risk. Nothing on Paypal is really free.
- dx034 9y agoHonestly, no user will notice that. You need at least 10 roundtrips for 20ms difference to be noticeable. Very different obviously if you have APIs that require low latency.
- vidarh 9y agoI'm in the UK and host things both in a colo facility about 2 miles from me in London, and at Hetzner, and the roundtrip difference is not noticeable for normal workloads unless you're doing something extremely latency sensitive.