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> describing with some glee the effects of using an SLR in a built up area. And what are those effects? (besides killing people and making a noise) I am assum

> describing with some glee the effects of using an SLR in a built up area. And what are those effects? (besides killing people and making a noise) I am assuming in this case an SLR is a Self-Loading Rifle.

arethuza 9y ago
Shots from an SLR were apparently prone to going through people, then through walls, furniture and other walls and keeping on going for quite a long time.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_Self-Loading_Rifle#United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_Self-Loading_Rifle#United... Edit: Being rather young at the time (under 10) I had no idea about sectarianism and quite how ugly it can be.
- p90puma 9y ago
  In the rest of the world the "SLR" is referred to as a "FAL" and it's 7.62x51mm / .308 Winchester ammunition is a "medium" caliber firearm. Quite a bit weaker than what was used commonly in WW1/WW2 but stronger than the standard 5.56mm / .223 Remington round that is used today by the armed forces. It's still a very common round and used in various applications around the world. "Quite a long time" is a bit of fear pandering, it's what you would use to kill a deer humanely. Any sort of a firearm is dangerous when used against people massed in tight quarters.
  - arethuza 9y ago
    Don't worry, my criticism was very much intended for the person telling me this story who seemed to think that army bullets traveling as far as possible through Catholic housing was a good thing :-|
saiya-jin 9y ago
Chambered in 7.62x51mm round, cca equivalent of .308. Very powerful cartridge, much more than AK-47 ones, which are already way more powerful than what most NATO is using (5.56mm - fast&precise but lightweight and often stops too soon, as troops in Iraq/Afghanistan know too well). Not only it causes literally dismemberment (hit in limb will create an 'explosion' in tissue, you can literally blow off head of a person), but it over-penetrates (ie brick wall doesn't stop it). We're talking about regular ammo, not armor piercing ones which is another level above. Against 'soft' targets (without ballistic protection, not behind thick concrete), you want exact opposite - something that hits and stops immediately (ie you are in your house and there is an intruder - you don't want to shoot him and your kid which is behind 1-3 thin walls in same direction).

arethuza 9y ago

Shots from an SLR were apparently prone to going through people, then through walls, furniture and other walls and keeping on going for quite a long time.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_Self-Loading_Rifle#United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_Self-Loading_Rifle#United... Edit: Being rather young at the time (under 10) I had no idea about sectarianism and quite how ugly it can be.

p90puma 9y ago
In the rest of the world the "SLR" is referred to as a "FAL" and it's 7.62x51mm / .308 Winchester ammunition is a "medium" caliber firearm. Quite a bit weaker than what was used commonly in WW1/WW2 but stronger than the standard 5.56mm / .223 Remington round that is used today by the armed forces. It's still a very common round and used in various applications around the world. "Quite a long time" is a bit of fear pandering, it's what you would use to kill a deer humanely. Any sort of a firearm is dangerous when used against people massed in tight quarters.
- arethuza 9y ago
  Don't worry, my criticism was very much intended for the person telling me this story who seemed to think that army bullets traveling as far as possible through Catholic housing was a good thing :-|

saiya-jin 9y ago

Chambered in 7.62x51mm round, cca equivalent of .308. Very powerful cartridge, much more than AK-47 ones, which are already way more powerful than what most NATO is using (5.56mm - fast&precise but lightweight and often stops too soon, as troops in Iraq/Afghanistan know too well). Not only it causes literally dismemberment (hit in limb will create an 'explosion' in tissue, you can literally blow off head of a person), but it over-penetrates (ie brick wall doesn't stop it). We're talking about regular ammo, not armor piercing ones which is another level above. Against 'soft' targets (without ballistic protection, not behind thick concrete), you want exact opposite - something that hits and stops immediately (ie you are in your house and there is an intruder - you don't want to shoot him and your kid which is behind 1-3 thin walls in same direction).