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If they open a DC in the US, then - by the US laws - their US company will have to provide the data even from German DCs when requested by the US government. So
by pulse7 9y ago
If they open a DC in the US, then - by the US laws - their US company will have to provide the data even from German DCs when requested by the US government. So it is maybe better not to enter the US...
- babuskov 9y agoThey could form a separate company to handle US operations only.
- dx034 9y agoOVH tries to do that but I doubt that's waterproof. Probably easier to have an agreement with a US provider. Having everything in the EU makes it much easier for them and is a selling point for many customers.
- Tepix 9y agoA US company can't force a German company to hand out data, I don't see what you mean by "waterproof".
- albertgoeswoof 9y agoThe US government might not agree that they are two separate entities (they're not), and could take action based on that position (e.g. shut down the US company, ask the German government to compel the German company to comply with their laws etc.)
- germanier 9y agoMicrosoft has contracted their German Azure region to Deutsche Telekom (which is clearly a separate company) and claims to not be able to access the data. An arrangement similar to this (where basically the brand and technology is used by an actually independent company) could be possible.
- pulse7 9y agoUnless the US government slightly extends the law to include also the brands...
- revelation 9y agoActually, Microsofts challenge is still pending at the Supreme Court, no?
- C14L 9y agoGood point. Maybe if they opened a DC in Greenland or Iceland.
- dx034 9y agoIceland would theoretically be great, ideal location for US and Europe. But they'd need to lay a cable first, traffic Iceland-US is currently routed through Denmark/UK.
- Tepix 9y agoIceland also has cheap renewable energy. There is the Greenland connect cable¹ built in 2009 that goes from Iceland to Canada. Sounds like it currently has 60GBit/s. -- ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_Connect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland_Connect
- dx034 9y agoAt least when I was in Iceland traffic to the US was never routed through that cable (from traceroutes). Quebec appears to be the better choice for cheap renewable energy.
- ksec 9y agoThat is an Interesting questions, so Canada is currently the best for US citizen if you dont want a DC inside US?
- curun1r 9y agoPerhaps Canada could be a location that's beyond US jurisdiction but mostly solves the SoL problem.
- moepstar 9y agoSomewhere on their forum (not sure if this has been made public somewhere) they said they're looking to open a datacenter in Finland... Not sure if that helps with your latency problem or not, but options.... :)
- ptman 9y agohttp://www.goodnewsfinland.com/hetzner-sets-foot-finland/ http://www.goodnewsfinland.com/hetzner-sets-foot-finland/ They should start operations this year