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I don't see how you connected my thoughts to Russia. I'm just a guy who has been praying for the people in Syria since the beginning of the war.

danmaz74 9y ago
I linked it because I keep a close eye on Putin's propaganda war on democracy and, specifically, on the EU (me being in the EU). But just re-read your comment and the connection is pretty obvious... > The goal was to create a new pipeline from Qatar to Europe so Europe don’t have to buy gas from Russia > Russia won the war in both Ukraine and Syria, at same time > Qatar and Turkey are now enemies on the Russian side. The western alliance tried hard to take down their presidents by organizing coups but it failed.
- roadbeats 9y ago
  Either you follow Russian media agencies closely so you can categorize information by national news agencies, or you're just labeling me for telling facts that you don't like to hear. Neither behavior is not smart.
  - marklgr 9y ago
    The conspiracy theory crowd is always full of "facts" (ahem) that "people just don't want to hear". Because people "live in their bubble", obviously.
    - ben_w 9y ago
      One of my fears is that I might be in a bubble, a conspiracy theory, of my own. Suggestions?
      - jacobush 9y ago
        Having that fear is a very very good place to be, where most people at any one time is not.
  - danmaz74 9y ago
    If you're interested, I regularly read what some of Putin's supporter I know post on Reddit (mostly coming from RT and Sputnik). This way, I keep up on that kind of propaganda without having to read all the Russian media agencies directly. To anticipate your next point: is there propaganda in the West? Yes, absolutely. Is it the same level BS as Putin's propaganda? No way - in the West there are just so many more independent sources of information, that finding out most BS is easy enough if you try. In Russia, things are very tightly controlled by Putin and his system.
    - laumars 9y ago
      Most people in the west don't try and find impartial information or counter arguments as generally people don't like having their opinion challenged. Worse still, many of the most popular news networks are also the the worst for political bias (Fox News, News UK (Sun), The Daily Mail, etc.) Let's also not forget just how many people get their news from untrusted sources posted on social media and other similar communication mediums. So I think it's a stretch to say things are significantly better in the west. If anything, people are just as badly misled here but with the added misconception that the free market and freedom of press means their news is automatically also free of political bias (or sometimes they do know but simply don't care because they had that bias to begin with)
      - laumars 9y ago
        Re people how downvoted me. I appreciate this is an opinion so others will differ but it would be nice to have a counterargument so I can understand why you disagree
    - mkalygin 9y ago
      I'm Russian. And while I agree that we have a propaganda, I can't say that the situation is any better in the West. When I was living in UK for a while, I was amazed by how some really smart people have 100% level of trust to national media, so that they can't even perceive another point of view. All arguments were based on the fact that their media is historically old and never lies because it can't risk its reputation. And all Russian media is propaganda and controlled by Putin. It was 2014 and I can't say how much I was asked what I think about Putin. Honestly I didn't know what to answer because I don't like to talk about politics. But since that time I know that if you look around the world you will notice the same BS but in different boxing. And people are equally vulnerable to buy it.
  - differentView 9y ago
    What are your news sources?

danmaz74 9y ago

I linked it because I keep a close eye on Putin's propaganda war on democracy and, specifically, on the EU (me being in the EU). But just re-read your comment and the connection is pretty obvious... > The goal was to create a new pipeline from Qatar to Europe so Europe don’t have to buy gas from Russia > Russia won the war in both Ukraine and Syria, at same time > Qatar and Turkey are now enemies on the Russian side. The western alliance tried hard to take down their presidents by organizing coups but it failed.

roadbeats 9y ago
Either you follow Russian media agencies closely so you can categorize information by national news agencies, or you're just labeling me for telling facts that you don't like to hear. Neither behavior is not smart.
- marklgr 9y ago
  The conspiracy theory crowd is always full of "facts" (ahem) that "people just don't want to hear". Because people "live in their bubble", obviously.
  - ben_w 9y ago
    One of my fears is that I might be in a bubble, a conspiracy theory, of my own. Suggestions?
    - jacobush 9y ago
      Having that fear is a very very good place to be, where most people at any one time is not.
- danmaz74 9y ago
  If you're interested, I regularly read what some of Putin's supporter I know post on Reddit (mostly coming from RT and Sputnik). This way, I keep up on that kind of propaganda without having to read all the Russian media agencies directly. To anticipate your next point: is there propaganda in the West? Yes, absolutely. Is it the same level BS as Putin's propaganda? No way - in the West there are just so many more independent sources of information, that finding out most BS is easy enough if you try. In Russia, things are very tightly controlled by Putin and his system.
  - laumars 9y ago
    Most people in the west don't try and find impartial information or counter arguments as generally people don't like having their opinion challenged. Worse still, many of the most popular news networks are also the the worst for political bias (Fox News, News UK (Sun), The Daily Mail, etc.) Let's also not forget just how many people get their news from untrusted sources posted on social media and other similar communication mediums. So I think it's a stretch to say things are significantly better in the west. If anything, people are just as badly misled here but with the added misconception that the free market and freedom of press means their news is automatically also free of political bias (or sometimes they do know but simply don't care because they had that bias to begin with)
    - laumars 9y ago
      Re people how downvoted me. I appreciate this is an opinion so others will differ but it would be nice to have a counterargument so I can understand why you disagree
  - mkalygin 9y ago
    I'm Russian. And while I agree that we have a propaganda, I can't say that the situation is any better in the West. When I was living in UK for a while, I was amazed by how some really smart people have 100% level of trust to national media, so that they can't even perceive another point of view. All arguments were based on the fact that their media is historically old and never lies because it can't risk its reputation. And all Russian media is propaganda and controlled by Putin. It was 2014 and I can't say how much I was asked what I think about Putin. Honestly I didn't know what to answer because I don't like to talk about politics. But since that time I know that if you look around the world you will notice the same BS but in different boxing. And people are equally vulnerable to buy it.
- differentView 9y ago
  What are your news sources?