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Airbags save lives. Airbags also kill babies if used incorrectly. There are warning placards in several places in your car saying such. Sometimes an airbag c
by sathackr 9y ago
Airbags save lives.
Airbags also kill babies if used incorrectly.
There are warning placards in several places in your car saying such.
Sometimes an airbag can cause more injury than the accident.
A seatbelt may trap you in a sinking car.
But overall, airbags and seatbelts have significantly reduced traffic injuries and fatalities.
Autopilot saves lives. Autopilot used incorrectly can kill people. But overall, Autopilot has significantly reduced the number of accidents involving Teslas.
So do we take airbags away because using them incorrectly might hurt a child? Are they a safety feature or marketing value?
- frgtpsswrdlame 9y ago>Autopilot saves lives. There is no evidence of this.
- toomuchtodo 9y agoNHTSA says it does (autopilot reduced crash rates by 40%). http://bgr.com/2017/01/19/tesla-autopilot-crash-safety-statistics-report-nhtsa/amp/ http://bgr.com/2017/01/19/tesla-autopilot-crash-safety-stati...
- frgtpsswrdlame 9y agoThis is a common misinterpretation. The data only shows that TACC + Autosteer reduced crashes by 40% vs TACC alone. There is no comparison to complete driver control.
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- toomuchtodo 9y agoTesla’s data shows autopilot (TACC + Autosteer) to be 50% safer than human driver control. While I have yet to see an independent study verifying that, the evidence is compelling. Humans are terrible drivers. Time will tell as they ramp production.
- frgtpsswrdlame 9y agoWhere does Tesla's data show TACC + Autosteer to be 50% safer than human driver control?
- toomuchtodo 9y agohttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/04/25/elon-musk-teslas-autopilot-makes-accidents-50pc-less-likely/amp/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/04/25/elon-musk-t... > "The probability of having an accident is 50 per cent lower if you have Autopilot on," said Musk, speaking at an energy conference in Oslo, Norway. "Even with our first version, it's almost twice as good as a person." > The results are from Tesla's first generation of Autopilot, which owners have already used to drive over 47 million miles since it launched in October 2015.
- frgtpsswrdlame 9y agoOkay, so the problem there is that it isn't an apples to apples comparison. The 'miles driven while using autopilot' basically only contain very nice driving conditions, either slow moving congestion, wide open roads, no miles with snow surely, no lane changing, etc. But the 'miles driven without autopilot' contain all those things, quick lane changes and snow and rain and city driving and parking lot driving, basically all the scenarios where accidents are very likely. It's pure selection bias, it says nothing about the state of Autopilot and Musk likes it that way.
- criddell 9y agoI think Tesla has enough telemetry and miles driven to come up with some idea of whether or not miles traveled with Autopilot on have more or fewer deaths than cars in general. I don't know what the answer is, but there's certainly evidence.
- steve_adams_86 9y ago> Autopilot used incorrectly can kill people. Sorry, I don't get it. How do you use something incorrectly when by definition you aren't really using it at all? It seems like an oxymoron.
- kelnos 9y agoUsing Autopilot while not being alert and engaged would be "using it incorrectly".