That is not what Meyers meant. [We meander midstream into a heated discussion between Kurzweil and PZ Myers...] Kurzweil: ...able to live...FOREVER! Kurzweil

That is not what Meyers meant. [We meander midstream into a heated discussion between Kurzweil and PZ Myers...] Kurzweil: ...able to live...FOREVER! Kurzweil: ... Kurzweil: ...? Myers: FFS, Kurzweil, you dimwit, we're the only two people in the room, and you can't possibly think you're going to get your standing ovation from me... Kurzweil: Enhh...whoops, I guess my muscle memory kicked in, I've given that speech an awful lot of times, sorry about that...back to my main point, I guess: The Kolmogorov complexity of any "intelligence algorithm" is, with high probability, bounded from above by the size of the DNA string that picked that algorithm out of the entire universe of algorithms. Myers: Kurzweil, you fucking idiot, if we want to build a brain, we need a lot more than just the bits of information in the DNA. There's an entire developmental pathway leading from DNA to its ultimate expression in a human brain, and you can't just pretend that we could write a simple algorithm to collapse that into one step. Kurzweil: But I'm not saying that we want to build a brain by translating the DNA. I'm saying that the amount of information necessary to pick the brain's particular neural algorithm out of a full lineup of all possible neural algorithms (most of which would do nothing useful at all) must be coming from the DNA. Since the universe of all possible neural algorithms that can be expressed by DNA is highly unlikely to be have a disproportionate representation of useful neural algorithms, it's a matter of simple probability to see that the amount of information necessary to pick out a useful neural algorithm in any sufficiently large and random universe of neural algorithms is likely to be the same as the amount of information necessary to make that selection out of the DNA-expressible neural algorithms. Myers: But you can't just translate from DNA to a brain, GODDAMN it, this is basic biology we're talking about! There's a lot of stuff that happens between DNA and a brain, and you can't just ignore it! Kurzweil: Who said we were talking about biology? Myers: I'M A F$@KING BIOLOGIST, OF COURSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BIOLOGY!!!