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Chinese solar panels are already artificially more competitive because of the Chinese government's policies, this is just evening the playing field. It's alrea

Chinese solar panels are already artificially more competitive because of the Chinese government's policies, this is just evening the playing field. It's already clear that solar is only getting cheaper and more viable globally, this is a long term vote for maintaining our national security by guaranteeing that an entire industry can compete with foreign companies that are subsidized by their governments.

_jal 9y ago
Fascinating, to see how 70s union arguments are recycled.
- civilitty 9y ago
  Fascinating to see how people with access to the internet fail to grasp basic concepts of sovereignty that were obvious to leaders that lived thousands of years ago.
  - thephyber 9y ago
    Ah the good old "appeal to tradition" fallacy. Just because it happened for a long time doesn't mean it is necessarily right, moral, or just. This fallacious argument was used to retain slavery in the US for 50+ years after it was abolished in Britain/UK. It was used to justify restricting voting to white, landholding men and banning interracial marriage for centuries. And if I were to use one of the president's favorite fallacies against himself[2], "what about" all of the places in the world where we reject local sovereignty for the supposed "national security" of the USA? I would argue that all of the problems the US has had with Iran since the late 1960s have to do with the USA's lack of respect for Iranian sovereignty in the 1950s. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
    - civilitty 9y ago
      Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that you could fight a war without weaponry, food, logistics, manpower, or any of the resources needed to support those aforementioned things - like, you know, electricity or electrical generation equipment. I also didn't know that you could move all your manufacturing from a foreign country to your own shores at the blink of an eye when a war breaks out, nor that violent conflict stopped being a thing within human civilization. It's not an appeal to tradition to tell someone to predict the motion of a slow moving football with Newtonian mechanics.

_jal 9y ago

Fascinating, to see how 70s union arguments are recycled.

civilitty 9y ago
Fascinating to see how people with access to the internet fail to grasp basic concepts of sovereignty that were obvious to leaders that lived thousands of years ago.
- thephyber 9y ago
  Ah the good old "appeal to tradition" fallacy. Just because it happened for a long time doesn't mean it is necessarily right, moral, or just. This fallacious argument was used to retain slavery in the US for 50+ years after it was abolished in Britain/UK. It was used to justify restricting voting to white, landholding men and banning interracial marriage for centuries. And if I were to use one of the president's favorite fallacies against himself[2], "what about" all of the places in the world where we reject local sovereignty for the supposed "national security" of the USA? I would argue that all of the problems the US has had with Iran since the late 1960s have to do with the USA's lack of respect for Iranian sovereignty in the 1950s. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
  - civilitty 9y ago
    Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that you could fight a war without weaponry, food, logistics, manpower, or any of the resources needed to support those aforementioned things - like, you know, electricity or electrical generation equipment. I also didn't know that you could move all your manufacturing from a foreign country to your own shores at the blink of an eye when a war breaks out, nor that violent conflict stopped being a thing within human civilization. It's not an appeal to tradition to tell someone to predict the motion of a slow moving football with Newtonian mechanics.