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This is terrible, of course. Goes without saying. But what really interests me that police officers are complaining about not having enough of these cards to gi
by untog 9y ago
This is terrible, of course. Goes without saying. But what really interests me that police officers are complaining about not having enough of these cards to give out as Christmas presents. Complaining in public, in the clear light of day!
That actually worries me more than the cards themselves in some respects, because it means that the average officer's perception of what is fair is utterly, entirely out of whack with reality. It's one, corrupt, thing for these cards to exist under the radar as a means for officers to benefit, but it's another to not even see why people would be offended by it.
- draw_down 9y agoIt just shows that the police can more or less do what they want, which of course anyone paying attention already knew. Just another log in the pile.
- imglorp 9y agoPolice should believe in the Rule of Law, capitalized like this, as their prime directive. Cards say otherwise, and that's the offensive part.
- jay_kyburz 9y agoYeah, the friends and family of a cop caught speeding should pay the fine because they should know better. Take these cards away and give the cops a massive pay rise. They are not paid enough to deal with the shit they have to every day.
- bradleyjg 9y agoHow much in total compensation exactly do you think a say a ten year veteran of the NYPD should make in a year all in (i.e. including all shift differentials, uniform allowances, overtime, health care and other fringe benefits, as well as the net present value of the 1/20th of expected retirement benefits)? What’s your estimate of the current average total amount?
- jay_kyburz 9y agoI have no idea, but some quick googling tells me they currently earn around 100k. I guess I was trying to say that even at twice that it doesn't sound like a good deal to me. Edit: I guess your comment suggests you think they are paid fairly. Are you cop? Would you consider a career with the NYPD give current compensation?
- bradleyjg 9y agoIf you think $200k in total compensation is fair, then good news. They get more than that. As for the second part, I regret not getting a job with the NYPD out of high school. If I had, I’d be just about ready to start collecting a six figure pension (I’m in my late 30s).
- wallace_f 9y agoPolice work would not even make a list as one of the top 10 most dangerous commonly-held jobs. Also, the grandparent's comment may be true for at least a percentage of the workforce: https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/03/police-complaints-drop-93-percent-after-deploying-body-cameras/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/03/police-complaints-drop-93-...
- Spooky23 9y agoUsually those stats focus on deaths or shootings, which have fallen as crime has decreased and cars have gotten safer. But, if you look at workplace injury and sickness, police don’t do well. They have higher incidence of heart disease, higher probability of auto accident injury, and other issues. It’s a tough gig.
- wallace_f 9y agoHeart disease? It'll be hard to pin that one solely on police work, and not on lifestyle choices.
- sneak 9y agoIf they did that, they wouldn't become cops in the first place.