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> Same goes for the wage gap. We know there is no gap. I'm curious how you've come to this conclusion considering the preponderance of studies that say otherwi

> Same goes for the wage gap. We know there is no gap. I'm curious how you've come to this conclusion considering the preponderance of studies that say otherwise. This article by the Washington Post examines a few claims regarding the wage gap if you are interested: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/business/women-pay-gap/?utm_term=.4c461e142d86 https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/business/women-...

dang_ 9y ago
If this conspiracy theory would be true, companies would only hire women, because they are 20% cheaper. Why is this not happening?
cup-of-tea 9y ago
> The median salary for women working full-time is about 80 percent of men’s. I don't need to read any further because I've read it all before. Women tend do different jobs to men. Easier, safer, less responsibility and less stress. That's not a wage gap, it's just a different choice of career. Which makes the next statement downright offensive: > That gap, put in other terms, means women are working for free 10 weeks a year.
- crowleysimon 9y ago
  I suggest you go back and read further on since "Women choose lower-paying jobs" is the very first claim that they refute
  - cup-of-tea 9y ago
    But that doesn't take into account responsibility or actual job done at all. Organisations only have a limited number of job titles and at higher levels people are not as expendable. They do their own job. The only thing that does seem to explain a gap---but a much smaller gap---is that men are more likely to negotiate their salaries.
whitemale 9y ago
If this conspiracy theory would be true, companies would only hire women, because they are 20% cheaper. Why is this not happening?
- brucephillips 9y ago
  People here might be more willing to respond to your question if you didn't refer to a highly researched Washington Post article as a conspiracy theory.
  - whitemale 9y ago
    > People here might be more willing to respond to your question if you didn't refer to a highly researched Washington Post article as a conspiracy theory. People don't have to respond, trying to dodge the question with an appeal to authority proves my point just fine. Your "highly researched" article doesn't deal with responsibility and seniority(mainly because there is no data for that) and makes funny claims such as "two very similar occupations, janitors (mostly men) and housekeepers (mostly women).", that's the equivalent of me saying "Worpdress development is similar to Enterprise Java Development" and for some reason one pays an order of magnitude more.
    - brucephillips 9y ago
      You don't understand what a conspiracy theory is. It's when a covert organization covers up a malicious act. You're just using inflated language to describe what's ultimately just a mistaken argument.
      - whitemale 9y ago
        If my argument is "mistaken", why are you focusing on the language that I used instead of just disproving my argument? I would also be interested that if the gender wage gap is real and it is as believers describe it, how would you explain it without going into conspiracy land.

dang_ 9y ago

If this conspiracy theory would be true, companies would only hire women, because they are 20% cheaper. Why is this not happening?

cup-of-tea 9y ago

> The median salary for women working full-time is about 80 percent of men’s. I don't need to read any further because I've read it all before. Women tend do different jobs to men. Easier, safer, less responsibility and less stress. That's not a wage gap, it's just a different choice of career. Which makes the next statement downright offensive: > That gap, put in other terms, means women are working for free 10 weeks a year.

crowleysimon 9y ago
I suggest you go back and read further on since "Women choose lower-paying jobs" is the very first claim that they refute
- cup-of-tea 9y ago
  But that doesn't take into account responsibility or actual job done at all. Organisations only have a limited number of job titles and at higher levels people are not as expendable. They do their own job. The only thing that does seem to explain a gap---but a much smaller gap---is that men are more likely to negotiate their salaries.

whitemale 9y ago

If this conspiracy theory would be true, companies would only hire women, because they are 20% cheaper. Why is this not happening?

brucephillips 9y ago
People here might be more willing to respond to your question if you didn't refer to a highly researched Washington Post article as a conspiracy theory.
- whitemale 9y ago
  > People here might be more willing to respond to your question if you didn't refer to a highly researched Washington Post article as a conspiracy theory. People don't have to respond, trying to dodge the question with an appeal to authority proves my point just fine. Your "highly researched" article doesn't deal with responsibility and seniority(mainly because there is no data for that) and makes funny claims such as "two very similar occupations, janitors (mostly men) and housekeepers (mostly women).", that's the equivalent of me saying "Worpdress development is similar to Enterprise Java Development" and for some reason one pays an order of magnitude more.
  - brucephillips 9y ago
    You don't understand what a conspiracy theory is. It's when a covert organization covers up a malicious act. You're just using inflated language to describe what's ultimately just a mistaken argument.
    - whitemale 9y ago
      If my argument is "mistaken", why are you focusing on the language that I used instead of just disproving my argument? I would also be interested that if the gender wage gap is real and it is as believers describe it, how would you explain it without going into conspiracy land.