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> these big companies operate what amounts to mini-surveillance states and face little to no scrutiny about it Cynically, the reason for this is that their min
by Bartweiss 9y ago
> these big companies operate what amounts to mini-surveillance states and face little to no scrutiny about it
Cynically, the reason for this is that their mini-surveillance states are contributors to a larger, more literal surveillance state; their would-be regulator is benefitting from this part of their behavior.
Some (Yahoo, Verizon, possibly Amazon) look to be actively complicit. But even 'resisters' like Apple are better for surveillance than a decline in online communication or a move to decentralized, E2EE approaches. And in the apocalyptic case, it's useful to encourage reliance on a primary communication channel that can be disabled on demand. The 'kill switch' power is another one that can be borrowed by the actual state.
I agree that rethinking this power distribution is an important move, but it's worth at least retaining an awareness of the cynical narrative: that regulation efforts against tech giants won't touch the areas where these companies are government proxies.
- jacksmith21006 9y agoApple appears to have sold out to the China government and at least Google chose instead to leave. http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/10/technology/apple-china-icloud/index.html http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/10/technology/apple-china-iclou... Apple: iCloud in China will be run by a state-owned company - Jan ...
- mrep 9y agoSo did AWS: https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/13/aws-exits-china/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/13/aws-exits-china/ If you want to have any technology business in china, that is your only option. Facebook, Google, Uber and many more have all failed because china won't let a foreign company win own huge technological market/data.