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Well, jeez. If I messed up badly and my boss, colleague, wife calls me a moron about this particular mess it doesn't mean they think I'm a moron generally, they

Well, jeez. If I messed up badly and my boss, colleague, wife calls me a moron about this particular mess it doesn't mean they think I'm a moron generally, they just call it as it is, and I'm responsible for it. I don't take it personally just because they call me a 'moron', especially if I deserve it! That means that if you get offended by the way someone else criticizes the mess you're responsible for you are not accepting the responsibility at all! Well, now that's an interesting insight!

acdha 9y ago
The behavior you’re describing may be satisfying for the person slinging insults but is widely recognized as unhelpful by most management or educational guidelines because it doesn’t lead to any positive outcomes but does lower morale and increase stress. Most people are going to take it personally, especially when it’s public in front of their peers, and since it’s so lazy and unhelpful there’s no benefit from doing that rather than, well, anything constructive
- dschuetz 9y ago
  I agree with that. But, even though it's all true what you are saying, within the context of the argument about Meltdown they definitely need to be able to suck up the blame for it. Being called a moron doesn't make this mess less bad. Arguments on the internet are held public most of the time + it's all public record. Personal insults are generally not acceptable. But when is it personal and who decides what's personal and what not? Where is the point when insults are the least important part of the issue? Should the insulted person always take insults personal regardless what issue at hand? I understand that sometimes an argument about an issue in reality is a battle of egos. But, seriously, Intel trying to wiggle themselves out of the noose with it's not a bug it's a feature PR stunts, I think insults are as appropriate as "thank you" and "have a nice day". So, if anyone says or does something stupid for no apparent reason, questioning the sanity of their decision making by calling them a moron is the way to go, imo.

acdha 9y ago

The behavior you’re describing may be satisfying for the person slinging insults but is widely recognized as unhelpful by most management or educational guidelines because it doesn’t lead to any positive outcomes but does lower morale and increase stress. Most people are going to take it personally, especially when it’s public in front of their peers, and since it’s so lazy and unhelpful there’s no benefit from doing that rather than, well, anything constructive

dschuetz 9y ago
I agree with that. But, even though it's all true what you are saying, within the context of the argument about Meltdown they definitely need to be able to suck up the blame for it. Being called a moron doesn't make this mess less bad. Arguments on the internet are held public most of the time + it's all public record. Personal insults are generally not acceptable. But when is it personal and who decides what's personal and what not? Where is the point when insults are the least important part of the issue? Should the insulted person always take insults personal regardless what issue at hand? I understand that sometimes an argument about an issue in reality is a battle of egos. But, seriously, Intel trying to wiggle themselves out of the noose with it's not a bug it's a feature PR stunts, I think insults are as appropriate as "thank you" and "have a nice day". So, if anyone says or does something stupid for no apparent reason, questioning the sanity of their decision making by calling them a moron is the way to go, imo.