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Mm. And you believe those on top will allow this to happen? You're raw material to them. Something they can consume. You're a chess piece. One reason I concea

Mm. And you believe those on top will allow this to happen? You're raw material to them. Something they can consume. You're a chess piece. One reason I conceal my identity is because my father has some very strange political beliefs, and I'd be embarrassed to be associated with his writings. But as time wears on, the belief that war is the inevitable outcome keeps pressing at me, gnawing at me, like a scratch on the roof of your mouth. History shows that war is the natural state of things. For roughly a million years, we have been at war. The peace brought by nuclear weapons has been maintained, thankfully. But we see how fragile the world is; this state of affairs holds up until the next generation becomes unhinged, and no longer. What do you think will happen when the top captures so much wealth production that the rest of the world cannot self-suffice? Truly. Put yourself there, mentally. Get into the mindset of the greedy nature of those at the top. Those who wish to grow their portfolios and dominate the world. The ambitious. Those who own the automation pipelines. Those who own the government. What possible incentive do they have to give up their control? They own you. And like the middle ages, we have no recourse. We'd lose this fight. And they know it. Forever. The lever of technology has become so large and terrifying that no one can possibly win. The only way is to subvert it. And as we approach 8 billion people, achieving any consensus becomes less and less likely. How high shall we go? Ten billion? Twenty? A hundred? How far are we from the limit? These thoughts are uncomfortable. Better compartmentalize them and follow the crowd: don't think about it, pretend it's not true, focus on math and programming and what little you can change.

rublev 9y ago
>What do you think will happen when the top captures so much wealth production that the rest of the world cannot self-suffice? That won't happen. They gave us nice little condos and handled just enough necessities and bleed us just enough where nobody will uprise.
t-away9912 9y ago
caution against only blaming "those on top". Unfortunately, many of these policies are supported by the masses which is a lot more disheartening to me.
- rublev 9y ago
  Can't blame the masses. I feel no contempt for propagaters, only catalysts.
  - t-away9912 9y ago
    why not? if the majority of the people approves oppression of a part of the society, you're kidding yourself by blaming few on top or catalysts, etc. It's a much more difficult problem when the society does not support the fundamental principles required for the modern society.
    - rublev 9y ago
      Do you blame your grandmother for propagating popups or do you blame the ad industry?
integricho 9y ago
One possible path to achieving this is simply based on the current advances already being made even by the biggest players such as Amazon. They try to eliminate human workforce completely from their pipelines. But what do they get with achieving this? Poor, jobless people who cannot pay for sh*t, thus their market would simply collapse by achieving what they hoped would give them much higher profits. A simple solution to this could be that the more a company is automated (and needs less human workforce), the more taxes they'd need to pay, and that same tax would be distributed to people as universal basic income. This circle could sustain a constant market for them, as well as enable people to pay for the stuff they need. Maybe.

rublev 9y ago

>What do you think will happen when the top captures so much wealth production that the rest of the world cannot self-suffice? That won't happen. They gave us nice little condos and handled just enough necessities and bleed us just enough where nobody will uprise.

t-away9912 9y ago

caution against only blaming "those on top". Unfortunately, many of these policies are supported by the masses which is a lot more disheartening to me.

rublev 9y ago
Can't blame the masses. I feel no contempt for propagaters, only catalysts.
- t-away9912 9y ago
  why not? if the majority of the people approves oppression of a part of the society, you're kidding yourself by blaming few on top or catalysts, etc. It's a much more difficult problem when the society does not support the fundamental principles required for the modern society.
  - rublev 9y ago
    Do you blame your grandmother for propagating popups or do you blame the ad industry?

integricho 9y ago

One possible path to achieving this is simply based on the current advances already being made even by the biggest players such as Amazon. They try to eliminate human workforce completely from their pipelines. But what do they get with achieving this? Poor, jobless people who cannot pay for sh*t, thus their market would simply collapse by achieving what they hoped would give them much higher profits. A simple solution to this could be that the more a company is automated (and needs less human workforce), the more taxes they'd need to pay, and that same tax would be distributed to people as universal basic income. This circle could sustain a constant market for them, as well as enable people to pay for the stuff they need. Maybe.