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People live in Slack and github today. The last time I had an actual conversation via email was probably 2 years ago. It's rather refreshing to see the Linux k

People live in Slack and github today. The last time I had an actual conversation via email was probably 2 years ago. It's rather refreshing to see the Linux kernel keeping the tradition of using mailing lists. Every company I've worked at has felt the need to gather a bunch of people in a room (or teleconference) and "knock things out" in real-time. Then, everyone leaves and develops a severe case of amnesia. Never mind that for technical debates you really need some time to think and reply in detail. Which Slack is not good at, but... surprise, email is. But alas, it's "too old."

eru 9y ago
Google Docs is surprisingly good for some of this kind of deliberation. (We used it at Google.) Especially when you use the 'suggesting' feature. It's a bit like a mini-PR for your docs. Google Wave was supposed to be really good for this---better than email.
- RainaRelanah 9y ago
  There isn't a week that passes where I don't miss Google Wave. It was a bit bloated, and javascript engines weren't quite up to speed for it (it was practically unusable on FireFox), but I still believe it was the best chance at an email evolution that we'll see in our lifetimes.
lloeki 9y ago
I find people to be completely befuddled when I use bottom posting, with interleaved posting faring only a tad better. The worst part being Exchange/Outlook users whose quoting system is braindead and has the uncanny power to routinely throw off any form of automated top-posting quote folding detection, making for a terrible reading experience in MUAs that support threading properly, as well as said users making heavy use of a Word-afflicted form of interleaved posting that consists of using colors and sizes to reply inline within the quoted part. On the same line no less. Please for the love of all that is holy could someone in vicinity of the Outlook team add support for "quote-this-selected-text" and "{in,de}crease-quote-level" as well as prefixing the full-quote with a proper marker instead of going full-on Z̭͕͕͘a͠l̛̬̮͇g̪̩͜o͏̹͚̯͖̜ͅ. [0]: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

eru 9y ago

Google Docs is surprisingly good for some of this kind of deliberation. (We used it at Google.) Especially when you use the 'suggesting' feature. It's a bit like a mini-PR for your docs. Google Wave was supposed to be really good for this---better than email.

RainaRelanah 9y ago
There isn't a week that passes where I don't miss Google Wave. It was a bit bloated, and javascript engines weren't quite up to speed for it (it was practically unusable on FireFox), but I still believe it was the best chance at an email evolution that we'll see in our lifetimes.

lloeki 9y ago

I find people to be completely befuddled when I use bottom posting, with interleaved posting faring only a tad better. The worst part being Exchange/Outlook users whose quoting system is braindead and has the uncanny power to routinely throw off any form of automated top-posting quote folding detection, making for a terrible reading experience in MUAs that support threading properly, as well as said users making heavy use of a Word-afflicted form of interleaved posting that consists of using colors and sizes to reply inline within the quoted part. On the same line no less. Please for the love of all that is holy could someone in vicinity of the Outlook team add support for "quote-this-selected-text" and "{in,de}crease-quote-level" as well as prefixing the full-quote with a proper marker instead of going full-on Z̭͕͕͘a͠l̛̬̮͇g̪̩͜o͏̹͚̯͖̜ͅ. [0]: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style