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> Such a situation could never have come about without certain fundamental confusions having been firmly established, and these begin with language itself. Vict
by alexandercrohde 9y ago
> Such a situation could never have come about without certain fundamental confusions having been firmly established, and these begin with language itself. Victims have traditionally been minority groups, but in fact women, who in the United States are a slight majority, have been deemed victims, whereas the Jews and the Chinese in America, though clearly minorities (and vastly less numerous than blacks or Hispanic people), are not usually counted as victims and thus rarely get included in affirmative action or other quota favoritism programs. A victim, then, is someone who insistently declares himself a victim.
I was just wondering about this last year. I still haven't had anybody explain it to me in a logically-consistent way. I think it's a fair ask.
- nl 9y agoMinority status does not define victims, and instead it is about power. There were a lot less British in India during the Raj than there were Indians. It is pretty clear who the victim was then.
- alexandercrohde 9y agoI'm not sure that explains why Chinese immigrants would be portrayed as victims less than hispanic immigrants, as just one example off the top of my head.
- tomcam 9y agoPlus there was no Hispanic Exclusion Act
- nl 9y agoYes, it was weird to completely ignore that. Almost like it didn't fit into his narrative or something!
- nl 9y agoThe article literally uses the British Raj as an example: Gandhi was the great teacher of the art of victimhood, of setting one's victimization on full public display. why Chinese immigrants would be portrayed as victims less than hispanic immigrants Because you can measure outcomes? But I think the word victim is completely wrong there (although perhaps it was correct in 1989).
- fenomas 9y ago> I'm not sure that explains why Chinese immigrants would be portrayed as victims less than hispanic immigrants The question makes no sense - why expect all minority groups to be portrayed equally as victims in the first place? Just because many victims are minorities doesn't mean that the latter implies the former. You might as well ask why Swedish immigrants aren't seen as victims - the obvious answer is, because being a minority isn't what makes someone be seen as a victim.
- nl 9y agoJust because many victims are minorities doesn't mean that the latter implies the former. Exactly. It's clearly not correct at all. It's almost like he knew that bit was a weak part of his argument, so surrounded it with examples which would put people into ideological mode instead of thinking for a moment about it.
- PhasmaFelis 9y agoBecause Chinese immigrants are treated better than Hispanic immigrants in modern America.
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- oceanghost 9y agoThe focus on "power" in late stage cultural marxisms is nonsense. I am white. I can gurantee you white people are not acting in concert to achieve anything. The people are the top are fking everyone below them, regardless of race or creed.
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