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I'm not surprised to hear that traditional chipmakers are having trouble with their talent pool. I just recently left semiconductors to get into software. Gett
by chiyc 9y ago
I'm not surprised to hear that traditional chipmakers are having trouble with their talent pool. I just recently left semiconductors to get into software.
Getting into software is much more accessible, especially with the abundance of learning material online. It's also easier for people to imagine how software can make a difference in people's lives, which is a common motivator. We're more aware of how we use software on a daily basis. And it's often software that goes viral in a consumer market, not hardware - Apple and phones aside. Silicon fabrication and chip design are at a level of abstraction that's harder to grasp.
How much accessible information is out there on hardware design? Neither is it easy to start fabricating your own chips.
> “A big part of the challenge is in awareness — we need to help them see the path.”
> That shouldn’t be difficult. “We make air travel safer, healthcare more predictable, we have an easy story to tell,” said Durn.
I agree that there needs to be more awareness. It's not, however, as easy as you might think to sell a student on this story. Sure, it might sound great at first. It sounds convincing. Almost everything is based on the hardware these companies produce, right?
Even if you convince them and get these new engineers in, you have to find out how to keep them.
The scale of engineering that needs to happen at these companies is massive. It takes many moving parts. Many of these companies start by allocating new undergraduate engineers to grunt work that's required at any company of this size.
> As our industry matured, operational efficiencies and a whole set of different DNA took hold
Good luck convincing your new engineers that being inserted into your company as a cog and dealing with your business procedures for “operational efficiencies” is making the world a better place.
> About 85% of chip vendors need new kinds of talent to keep pace with the rise of digital operations powered by automated systems, big data, and machine learning. However, 77% of them report a shortage of talent, particularly for EEs, according to studies by Deloitte Consulting done for the SEMI trade group.
Sure, there’s going to be a shortage of talent when you often demand graduate degrees at a minimum. Even more so when you don’t pay as much as the software giants are.
There is a good point in here though. These companies do need these new kinds of talent. And to be clear, it’s not the talent that needs to keep up with the new age, it’s these companies that need to keep pace. They need new processes and reorganization. And by reorganization, I mean something beyond just shuffling around managers and fattening up middle management.
You have to somehow replace the processes that worked just ten years ago but are slowing you down now. IT and your software departments can’t be seen as a cost center anymore. Don’t hire bright young engineers to do things you should be automating. Hire people to automate those things instead.
- nraynaud 9y agothere is also a public image issue, they have crappy, incomprehensible websites, tortuous procedures to access their crappy bloated design tools.
- stevenwoo 9y agoI graduated in 1989 with an Electrical Engineering degree and three semesters co-oping at AMD in a project on one of their Intel drop in replacement processors. My ancient experience coincides with your more recent experience - it taught me that a.) the really interesting stuff to me personally was going to require a Ph.D. to get in the door, they had extremely bright people working on lower level projects but everyone I talked to on the top projects had advanced degrees b.) each chip iteration was a huge process involving lots of different people at each stage with different expertise so each individual contribution was going to be tiny c.) the software we used to make/design chips was a lot more fun to work on and iterate and didn't require nearly as big of a capital investment/gamble, even back then.
- kijiki 9y ago> Good luck convincing your new engineers that being inserted into your company as a cog and dealing with your business procedures for “operational efficiencies” is making the world a better place. Dead on. I'm sure the author of the article is a great person, but the fact that the _CFO_ is the public face of this effort tells you all you need to know about how serious they are.
- droithomme 9y ago> Neither is it easy to start fabricating your own chips. Former top rank star level chip designer here. It's easy and cheap to do up to medium scale with FPGAs. All you need is elbow grease, smarts and creativity. This gives a lot of experience. There are guys around that have made their own chips singlehandedly. These are smart guys. You'd think they'd be in huge demand. Hah hah. Larger scale cutting edge chips oh yeah, it gets extremely expensive, not just way beyond individual level, but way beyond most companies. There's just not enough foundries willing to produce designs from scratch for random third parties for it to be competitive for small scale things. Doing so is expensive. You only want to take known serious players, or those with enough cash to make it worthwhile regardless. But one can certainly do so on the cheap for a lot of more modest designs and develop the experience. There are even multiple fantastic free classes these days that teach chip design. Amazing. Not only that but we see some microcontrollers that have small FPGA sections built in so you can roll your own for some stuff in widely available architectures. Wow! This is amazing to have and few take advantage. However, the criticisms stated are generally true. And yeah, if you're smart enough to do good chip design, you can do better and have less stress doing something else for sure.