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> We can all live perfectly happy, long lives without killing animals today (emphasis mine) I think the moral argument is relative (progress-based) at best. S
by jkarneges 9y ago
> We can all live perfectly happy, long lives without killing animals today
(emphasis mine)
I think the moral argument is relative (progress-based) at best. Slavery was never essential to survival, but consuming other animals so far has been, or at least it was until only very recently. Being a healthy vegan is mainly possible today thanks to advancements in science and food production. I think our children will give us a moral pass in the same way we give it to cats that still eat mice.
- mping 9y agoAnd what about old civilizations such as Indians or Chinese? There has been religious vegetarian sub groups for a long time (Jain, Buddhist, Hindu, etc). Not vegan, but at the time there was no CAFOs either.
- jkarneges 9y agoThat's true. I think my point still stands if we consider that the practices of these groups were probably not portable to all regions/people of the world. But still, it's interesting to think about how for a very long time, a good number of people achieved the moral ideal here without advanced understanding of nutrition. We ruined this with factory farmed dairy/eggs.