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I don't know how to feel about this. I'm definitely worried that no one knows what weird diseases this could cause years from now, and if any research pointing

I don't know how to feel about this. I'm definitely worried that no one knows what weird diseases this could cause years from now, and if any research pointing to cancer or other problems has been kept secret (like it's been done before in so many cases). For sure, intensive farming is bad for everybody (besides the farmers, perhaps), and anything that will reduce it is good news IMHO. As for how I'd feel eating lab meat, we only eat meat because most of us haven't seen how animals are kept, what they're fed, and how they're slaughtered (I have at my dad's organic pig farm and it's nothing pretty--and I can't imagine how intensive production looks). So, I guess meat coming from a lab is just as gross/weird as the above, I would probably try it and even get used to it. I'm sure vegetarians will love it--or at least the ones that do it for the animals--as they'll finally be able to eat meat, which is unarguably personal preference but IMHO about 100 times better-tasting than imitation meat (like those burgers you buy at the grocery store). I suspect if it's cheaper I'll get it served at some fast food restaurant, so I'll have a chance to try it.

lprubin 9y ago
If you're ever in NYC, let me know. I'll take you on a tour of vegan cuisine that will knock your socks off.
- nkkollaw 9y ago
  I'm in Poland--otherwise I'd love to, but I'm not saying it's not good, just that I don't like it. I can take you to some BBQ place that will take _your_ socks off, too. You know, to each his own :-)
  - lprubin 9y ago
    If your only understanding of imitation meat is "those burgers you buy at the grocery store," then my point is that there is a whole world of imitation meat you haven't experienced. I think you're pre-maturely judging a whole genre of food.
    - nkkollaw 9y ago
      I've been to good vegetarian restaurants around the world, they're fine but I still like meat better. Not every day, but I like to have a choice. > If your only understanding of imitation meat is "those burgers you buy at the grocery store," If I was a vegetarian I would definitely end up buying stuff from the grocery store, not going to different really good restaurants every day.
- cangencer 9y ago
  Care to share a list of some recommended places?
  - lprubin 9y ago
    I'd be happy to. http://www.hangawirestaurant.com/ http://www.hangawirestaurant.com/ http://candle79.com/ http://candle79.com/ http://www.motherofpearlnyc.com/ http://www.motherofpearlnyc.com/ http://www.matthewkenneycuisine.com/double-zero http://www.matthewkenneycuisine.com/double-zero http://www.thepennsy.nyc/the-cinnamon-snail/ http://www.thepennsy.nyc/the-cinnamon-snail/ http://beyondsushinyc.com/ http://beyondsushinyc.com/ http://www.blossomnyc.com/ http://www.blossomnyc.com/ http://www.buddha-bodai.com/menu.html http://www.buddha-bodai.com/menu.html https://www.erinmckennasbakery.com/ https://www.erinmckennasbakery.com/ http://www.franchia.com/ http://www.franchia.com/
danharaj 9y ago
I'm a meat eater but in my experience vegetarian or vegan good that merely tries to imitate meat dishes always sucks, but cuisine built around the ingredients available can be amazing. For example, i think south Indian vegetarian food is good enough that if I had it every day I wouldn't mind not eating meat. If you use enough "umami bombs" in cooking then you can make very savory veg* dishes. My faves are soy sauce and yeast extract and I'm also not above using MSG. Tbh I think meat is an addiction. Even if veg meals satisfy me and meet my caloric needs I still crave it!
- notyourwork 9y ago
  I agree, Indian food is the one that doesn't make me miss meat.
- eric_h 9y ago
  > My faves are soy sauce and yeast extract and I'm also not above using MSG If you're putting yeast extract in, you are absolutely not above using MSG, as that's pretty much what makes yeast extract so tasty (and used in many processed foods so they don't have to say that they added MSG to their product). As an aside - I bought a big ole bag of MSG a while back, and it's great to toss into sautéed vegetables.
  - danharaj 9y ago
    Ah yea, i said yeast extract instead of nutritional yeast: that stuff is amazing! Especially on popcorn
- icebraining 9y ago
  Even if veg meals satisfy me and meet my caloric needs I still crave it! Meat has more than calories - you might be missing the other components in your vegetarian meals.
user5994461 9y ago
>>> As for how I'd feel eating lab meat, we only eat meat because most of us haven't seen how animals are kept, what they're fed, and how they're slaughtered ... Children in the developed world might not know but you only have to go as far as their grands parents to find out. They typically had a farm and had to kill the animals themselves.
- lprubin 9y ago
  Factory farming today is a pretty far cry from grandpa's small family farm.
icebraining 9y ago
we only eat meat because most of us haven't seen how animals are kept, what they're fed, and how they're slaughtered This is often said, but I doubt it very much. I think it should be shown to everyone (including in school), and it would probably lead to some positive changes, but I doubt it would significantly reduce the number of meat eaters. We can look at the people working in the industry: are they all morally deficient or desperate for work? Not as far as I know.
- nkkollaw 9y ago
  Whenever I watch documentaries about the food industry, I find myself unable to eat meat for at least 10 days. I bet that if we were reminded somehow (like for cigarettes), lots of people will eat a lot less meat.

lprubin 9y ago

If you're ever in NYC, let me know. I'll take you on a tour of vegan cuisine that will knock your socks off.

nkkollaw 9y ago
I'm in Poland--otherwise I'd love to, but I'm not saying it's not good, just that I don't like it. I can take you to some BBQ place that will take _your_ socks off, too. You know, to each his own :-)
- lprubin 9y ago
  If your only understanding of imitation meat is "those burgers you buy at the grocery store," then my point is that there is a whole world of imitation meat you haven't experienced. I think you're pre-maturely judging a whole genre of food.
  - nkkollaw 9y ago
    I've been to good vegetarian restaurants around the world, they're fine but I still like meat better. Not every day, but I like to have a choice. > If your only understanding of imitation meat is "those burgers you buy at the grocery store," If I was a vegetarian I would definitely end up buying stuff from the grocery store, not going to different really good restaurants every day.
cangencer 9y ago
Care to share a list of some recommended places?
- lprubin 9y ago
  I'd be happy to. http://www.hangawirestaurant.com/ http://www.hangawirestaurant.com/ http://candle79.com/ http://candle79.com/ http://www.motherofpearlnyc.com/ http://www.motherofpearlnyc.com/ http://www.matthewkenneycuisine.com/double-zero http://www.matthewkenneycuisine.com/double-zero http://www.thepennsy.nyc/the-cinnamon-snail/ http://www.thepennsy.nyc/the-cinnamon-snail/ http://beyondsushinyc.com/ http://beyondsushinyc.com/ http://www.blossomnyc.com/ http://www.blossomnyc.com/ http://www.buddha-bodai.com/menu.html http://www.buddha-bodai.com/menu.html https://www.erinmckennasbakery.com/ https://www.erinmckennasbakery.com/ http://www.franchia.com/ http://www.franchia.com/

danharaj 9y ago

I'm a meat eater but in my experience vegetarian or vegan good that merely tries to imitate meat dishes always sucks, but cuisine built around the ingredients available can be amazing. For example, i think south Indian vegetarian food is good enough that if I had it every day I wouldn't mind not eating meat. If you use enough "umami bombs" in cooking then you can make very savory veg* dishes. My faves are soy sauce and yeast extract and I'm also not above using MSG. Tbh I think meat is an addiction. Even if veg meals satisfy me and meet my caloric needs I still crave it!

notyourwork 9y ago
I agree, Indian food is the one that doesn't make me miss meat.
eric_h 9y ago
> My faves are soy sauce and yeast extract and I'm also not above using MSG If you're putting yeast extract in, you are absolutely not above using MSG, as that's pretty much what makes yeast extract so tasty (and used in many processed foods so they don't have to say that they added MSG to their product). As an aside - I bought a big ole bag of MSG a while back, and it's great to toss into sautéed vegetables.
- danharaj 9y ago
  Ah yea, i said yeast extract instead of nutritional yeast: that stuff is amazing! Especially on popcorn
icebraining 9y ago
Even if veg meals satisfy me and meet my caloric needs I still crave it! Meat has more than calories - you might be missing the other components in your vegetarian meals.

user5994461 9y ago

>>> As for how I'd feel eating lab meat, we only eat meat because most of us haven't seen how animals are kept, what they're fed, and how they're slaughtered ... Children in the developed world might not know but you only have to go as far as their grands parents to find out. They typically had a farm and had to kill the animals themselves.

lprubin 9y ago
Factory farming today is a pretty far cry from grandpa's small family farm.

icebraining 9y ago

we only eat meat because most of us haven't seen how animals are kept, what they're fed, and how they're slaughtered This is often said, but I doubt it very much. I think it should be shown to everyone (including in school), and it would probably lead to some positive changes, but I doubt it would significantly reduce the number of meat eaters. We can look at the people working in the industry: are they all morally deficient or desperate for work? Not as far as I know.

nkkollaw 9y ago
Whenever I watch documentaries about the food industry, I find myself unable to eat meat for at least 10 days. I bet that if we were reminded somehow (like for cigarettes), lots of people will eat a lot less meat.