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> Unfortunately, due to the lack of female engineers, this will be impossible to implement everywhere. Correct. But the goal here I suspect is to get enough co

> Unfortunately, due to the lack of female engineers, this will be impossible to implement everywhere. Correct. But the goal here I suspect is to get enough corporations onboard such that schools (k-12 and undergraduate/graduate) are now motivated to select for and encourage balanced talent pool participation for fear of missing out on "hip" companies.

megaman22 9y ago
It'll be interesting to see in five or ten years if all of this effort bears results. Being willing, and taking satisfaction from beating your head against a computer to get it to do what you want it to do is something I just don't observe as being wide-spread in any population group. But we need as many of those people as we can find, wherever they happen to be and whatever they look like.
pedrosorio 9y ago
> such that schools (k-12 and undergraduate/graduate) I guess some universities care about which companies recruit there (for marketing purposes, being able to say companies A,B,C recruit there), but does this really apply to k-12? Also, if most "hip" companies chose to only recruit at universities with gender ratios exceeding some threshold (and by causality this happens before universities are "properly motivated" to encourage balanced gender ratios in CS), won't they be hurting themselves by competing for an arbitrarily chosen much smaller pool of talent?
- pwinnski 9y ago
  Yes, girls are currently switching away from math and computer classes in high school, before they even reach college.
  - pedrosorio 9y ago
    I am not disputing the fact that high school matters as far as gender distribution of people applying to software eng. positions. I was replying to a comment that says: > the goal here I suspect is to get enough corporations onboard such that schools (k-12 and undergraduate/graduate) are now motivated to select for and encourage balanced talent pool participation for fear of missing out on "hip" companies And asking how will "fear of missing out" motivate k-12 schools to get more girls into those classes. Companies don't recruit in k-12 schools. How would duolingo and "other hip companies" recruiting exclusively from universities whose CS classes exceed a gender ratio threshold influence k-12 schools?
autokad 9y ago
have you ever considered the idea that many women dont want to be engineers? what about the fact that more men are dropping out of school and less are entering college? shouldnt we be encouraging those men to be engineers as well? as far as encouraging undergaduate/graduate to have more 'balanced' classes, since there is a limited number of seats I can't see that going any other way than: you have a penis, thats a negative on your application.
- eganist 9y ago
  > what about I'm not here to entertain your Tu Quoque fallacies today. :)
  - autokad 9y ago
    Tu quoque "argument" follows the pattern: Person A makes claim X. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X. Therefore X is false I made no claims about your past actions or past claims.

megaman22 9y ago

It'll be interesting to see in five or ten years if all of this effort bears results. Being willing, and taking satisfaction from beating your head against a computer to get it to do what you want it to do is something I just don't observe as being wide-spread in any population group. But we need as many of those people as we can find, wherever they happen to be and whatever they look like.

pedrosorio 9y ago

> such that schools (k-12 and undergraduate/graduate) I guess some universities care about which companies recruit there (for marketing purposes, being able to say companies A,B,C recruit there), but does this really apply to k-12? Also, if most "hip" companies chose to only recruit at universities with gender ratios exceeding some threshold (and by causality this happens before universities are "properly motivated" to encourage balanced gender ratios in CS), won't they be hurting themselves by competing for an arbitrarily chosen much smaller pool of talent?

pwinnski 9y ago
Yes, girls are currently switching away from math and computer classes in high school, before they even reach college.
- pedrosorio 9y ago
  I am not disputing the fact that high school matters as far as gender distribution of people applying to software eng. positions. I was replying to a comment that says: > the goal here I suspect is to get enough corporations onboard such that schools (k-12 and undergraduate/graduate) are now motivated to select for and encourage balanced talent pool participation for fear of missing out on "hip" companies And asking how will "fear of missing out" motivate k-12 schools to get more girls into those classes. Companies don't recruit in k-12 schools. How would duolingo and "other hip companies" recruiting exclusively from universities whose CS classes exceed a gender ratio threshold influence k-12 schools?

autokad 9y ago

have you ever considered the idea that many women dont want to be engineers? what about the fact that more men are dropping out of school and less are entering college? shouldnt we be encouraging those men to be engineers as well? as far as encouraging undergaduate/graduate to have more 'balanced' classes, since there is a limited number of seats I can't see that going any other way than: you have a penis, thats a negative on your application.

eganist 9y ago
> what about I'm not here to entertain your Tu Quoque fallacies today. :)
- autokad 9y ago
  Tu quoque "argument" follows the pattern: Person A makes claim X. Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X. Therefore X is false I made no claims about your past actions or past claims.