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As much as I like spacemacs/emacs, org mode truly is one of the best things about that editor, and its amazing to see it gaining some real momentum with those o

As much as I like spacemacs/emacs, org mode truly is one of the best things about that editor, and its amazing to see it gaining some real momentum with those outside that ecosystem. This should do wonders for org mode, but more than that, give a lot of people scared off by emacs the chance to use the amazing org mode features.

vvanders 9y ago
org mode is literally the only reason I have spacemacs installed. If this is at the same quality bar I may move to VSCode completely. [edit] It's missing a lot of the keybindings that made org mode so fast to use so not 100% there yet. Still awesome project and hope it gets continued investment like VIM mode for VSCode.
- walkingolof 9y ago
  dito, the problem with spacemacs is that it starts so slowly, VSCode is way faster to start.
  - xfer 9y ago
    The usual workflow for emacs is to launch it as a daemon and use emacsclient
  - vvanders 9y ago
    Oh, I usually have it running 24/7. The problem with spacemacs is it's an absolute bear to get running on win32. Takes me a good day+ to sort out the exact details every time I setup a new machine since it seems to change. Last time if I recall right I had to turn off https which was not confidence inducing.
    - saulrh 9y ago
      I've given up on running emacs on win. These days I run an X server, use bash-on-windows for SSH, and then forward X from a headless tower in a closet or a virtual machine to my desktop.
- jkdufair 9y ago
  magit is also a good reason to have it installed outside of it's text editing capabilities.
- arvinsim 9y ago
  Same thing here. I am looking for a lightweight editor because Spacemacs is heavy for me.
oblio 9y ago
> give a lot of people scared off by emacs I'm not even scared off, but I won't use Emacs because it doesn't have tabs. I know about the alternatives presented, but I just want tabs. I find it funny that the kitchen sink "Eight Megabytes and Constantly Swapping" Emacs doesn't have a built in tab implementation while the supposedly small Vim has one :)
- turndown 9y ago
  I won't lie, when I first started using Spacemacs it kinda blew my mind there were no tabs; I don't really mind it now that I've installed unimpaired and can cycle through buffers with ]b and [b.
  - oblio 9y ago
    I'm mostly a Vim user and I could navigate the buffers with its buffer commands, yet I prefer tabs.
  - hiq 9y ago
    Do you see in advance how many times you will have to do ]b or [b? For me this is the advantage of tabs over buffers, and it's faster than checking the buffer every time it changes.
- barrkel 9y ago
  I've found tabs to not scale as a UI idiom, generally. They're ok for up to about 10 documents, after that, I'm looking for something else. I normally use IntelliJ with two panes open, and about 120 tabs between the two of them. But because IntelliJ tabs can't scroll and Java filenames are long, the tab I want to switch to is never visible, and the tab list dropdown is painful to scan. C-n and C-S-n are what I end up using. And for the browser, I use tree-style tabs. The hierarchy keeps related tabs together, and I can collapse when I do a context switch. The fact I can see all the (top-level) tabs at once in a long list means spatial memory works better. In emacs, I use Helm and Projectile, bound to F11 and F12 for buffer and project searches. I've bound buffer switching to C-prior and C-next (those are PgUp and PgDown), and since the buffer order is basically a LIFO of whatever buffer you jumped to, the buffer you're looking for is usually within easy scrolling reach.
weaksauce 9y ago
Spacemacs with a properly setup evil bindings and a consistent bindings for all the packages and the Org mode, magit, helm, swoop modes/features are all just simply amazing and game changing.

vvanders 9y ago

org mode is literally the only reason I have spacemacs installed. If this is at the same quality bar I may move to VSCode completely. [edit] It's missing a lot of the keybindings that made org mode so fast to use so not 100% there yet. Still awesome project and hope it gets continued investment like VIM mode for VSCode.

walkingolof 9y ago
dito, the problem with spacemacs is that it starts so slowly, VSCode is way faster to start.
- xfer 9y ago
  The usual workflow for emacs is to launch it as a daemon and use emacsclient
- vvanders 9y ago
  Oh, I usually have it running 24/7. The problem with spacemacs is it's an absolute bear to get running on win32. Takes me a good day+ to sort out the exact details every time I setup a new machine since it seems to change. Last time if I recall right I had to turn off https which was not confidence inducing.
  - saulrh 9y ago
    I've given up on running emacs on win. These days I run an X server, use bash-on-windows for SSH, and then forward X from a headless tower in a closet or a virtual machine to my desktop.
jkdufair 9y ago
magit is also a good reason to have it installed outside of it's text editing capabilities.
arvinsim 9y ago
Same thing here. I am looking for a lightweight editor because Spacemacs is heavy for me.

oblio 9y ago

> give a lot of people scared off by emacs I'm not even scared off, but I won't use Emacs because it doesn't have tabs. I know about the alternatives presented, but I just want tabs. I find it funny that the kitchen sink "Eight Megabytes and Constantly Swapping" Emacs doesn't have a built in tab implementation while the supposedly small Vim has one :)

turndown 9y ago
I won't lie, when I first started using Spacemacs it kinda blew my mind there were no tabs; I don't really mind it now that I've installed unimpaired and can cycle through buffers with ]b and [b.
- oblio 9y ago
  I'm mostly a Vim user and I could navigate the buffers with its buffer commands, yet I prefer tabs.
- hiq 9y ago
  Do you see in advance how many times you will have to do ]b or [b? For me this is the advantage of tabs over buffers, and it's faster than checking the buffer every time it changes.
barrkel 9y ago
I've found tabs to not scale as a UI idiom, generally. They're ok for up to about 10 documents, after that, I'm looking for something else. I normally use IntelliJ with two panes open, and about 120 tabs between the two of them. But because IntelliJ tabs can't scroll and Java filenames are long, the tab I want to switch to is never visible, and the tab list dropdown is painful to scan. C-n and C-S-n are what I end up using. And for the browser, I use tree-style tabs. The hierarchy keeps related tabs together, and I can collapse when I do a context switch. The fact I can see all the (top-level) tabs at once in a long list means spatial memory works better. In emacs, I use Helm and Projectile, bound to F11 and F12 for buffer and project searches. I've bound buffer switching to C-prior and C-next (those are PgUp and PgDown), and since the buffer order is basically a LIFO of whatever buffer you jumped to, the buffer you're looking for is usually within easy scrolling reach.

weaksauce 9y ago

Spacemacs with a properly setup evil bindings and a consistent bindings for all the packages and the Org mode, magit, helm, swoop modes/features are all just simply amazing and game changing.