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In poor taste? What's in poor taste here is an individual working in an extremely privileged field (in terms of job security, ease of finding work, and pay scal

In poor taste? What's in poor taste here is an individual working in an extremely privileged field (in terms of job security, ease of finding work, and pay scales) attempting to issue a style guide for blue collar workers. For people that actually work for a living this kind of work ethic is a self-defense mechanism. The alternatives are frequently minimum wage service jobs or homelessness. If you feel this strongly about worker's rights (and you should) you might consider volunteering with AFL-CIO organizing efforts in your community. Simple sneering will not suffice.

goldenkey 9y ago
Read my comment again. I said I was aware that some jobs provide no alternative. I did not sneer - in fact I wished him the best. My main point is that many of these workers have the wrong mindset - they get taken advantage of because they are proud about how they have such a ballbusting job-- when in reality many times they are simply being violated. Usually by the direct manager. It is often hard to see outside of ones' direct work environment to gain a perspective. It really depends on the average conditions in that industry and whether they have options. Hopefully the worker is diligent and doesn't get an uneven workload compared to the industry norm. But it takes mindset and effort not to get bamboozled. All I mean is for the best..not trying to talk down to anyone who is a hard worker..
- TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago
  It certainly is a bit ballbusting, but as someone who was an injecting meth user on-and-off for the better part of 10 years up until about 5 years ago, and now has a stable job in a beautiful part of the world, plenty of well paid overtime at a great company, a home loan, and a 1.5 minute commute to work. Fuck it, I'll take it. Might as well throw in some pride as well. YMMV!
user5994461 9y ago
There are very few individuals here in a privileged position. Many here are working long hours for a startup about to fail and most are trying to meet ends in the most expensive cities in the world.
- knieveltech 9y ago
  You assert that folks working for startups do so out of necessity and not choice, and that for them their options are limited to either live this life or be homeless? Because that's the reality of blue collar work. Let's not pretend it's particularly difficult to find work outside of the startup community. So yeah, privileged.
  - user5994461 9y ago
    Yes it's difficult to find work globally. It's hard outside of a big city. It's borderline impossible if you live in the country side.
    - knieveltech 9y ago
      "Difficult" is a subjective term. One cannot telecommute to a bricklaying or machinist job.
      - user5994461 9y ago
        Great for them. They will always have jobs in the vicinity at a fair local salary because they can't be outsourced oversea to the lowest bidder.

goldenkey 9y ago

Read my comment again. I said I was aware that some jobs provide no alternative. I did not sneer - in fact I wished him the best. My main point is that many of these workers have the wrong mindset - they get taken advantage of because they are proud about how they have such a ballbusting job-- when in reality many times they are simply being violated. Usually by the direct manager. It is often hard to see outside of ones' direct work environment to gain a perspective. It really depends on the average conditions in that industry and whether they have options. Hopefully the worker is diligent and doesn't get an uneven workload compared to the industry norm. But it takes mindset and effort not to get bamboozled. All I mean is for the best..not trying to talk down to anyone who is a hard worker..

TheSpiceIsLife 9y ago
It certainly is a bit ballbusting, but as someone who was an injecting meth user on-and-off for the better part of 10 years up until about 5 years ago, and now has a stable job in a beautiful part of the world, plenty of well paid overtime at a great company, a home loan, and a 1.5 minute commute to work. Fuck it, I'll take it. Might as well throw in some pride as well. YMMV!

user5994461 9y ago

There are very few individuals here in a privileged position. Many here are working long hours for a startup about to fail and most are trying to meet ends in the most expensive cities in the world.

knieveltech 9y ago
You assert that folks working for startups do so out of necessity and not choice, and that for them their options are limited to either live this life or be homeless? Because that's the reality of blue collar work. Let's not pretend it's particularly difficult to find work outside of the startup community. So yeah, privileged.
- user5994461 9y ago
  Yes it's difficult to find work globally. It's hard outside of a big city. It's borderline impossible if you live in the country side.
  - knieveltech 9y ago
    "Difficult" is a subjective term. One cannot telecommute to a bricklaying or machinist job.
    - user5994461 9y ago
      Great for them. They will always have jobs in the vicinity at a fair local salary because they can't be outsourced oversea to the lowest bidder.