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> If EMIB wasn't saving money while offering sufficient performance, then Intel would have integrated the AMD GPU into this product using the off-the-shelf sili
by saas_co_de 9y ago
> If EMIB wasn't saving money while offering sufficient performance, then Intel would have integrated the AMD GPU into this product using the off-the-shelf silicon interposers that AMD's own products use to connect the GPU to its HBM DRAM.
That is a nice claim, based on no evidence.
Intel spends billions subsidizing non-competitive products in order to try to build market share all the time. (mobile, ultrabook, etc, etc)
Unless you can present any evidence to the contrary (still no bandwidth numbers) it is just as likely that this product has EMIB because they couldn't get anyone else to use it and they need some shipping products with the tech to try and sell it.
- wtallis 9y ago> Intel spends billions subsidizing non-competitive products in order to try to build market share all the time. The concept of market share does not apply to EMIB. It's an internal implementation detail, and Intel gains nothing from using EMIB in one of their own products over a cheaper solution that would still result in the end product being an Intel-branded part. The only motivation that Intel could possibly have to use EMIB as any kind of loss-leader would be to entice third-party foundry customers to use Intel for the sake of EMIB. But attracting foundry customers is clearly not a priority for Intel, and Intel's primary goal with EMIB is to produce Intel products that may incorporate some third-party silicon, not to produce silicon to be incorporated into third-party products.