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Declassified documents show three Mexican presidents worked for the CIA

73 points by lobo_tuerto 9y ago

amerine 9y ago
Anyone have a good English translation?
- gknoy 9y ago
  When I viewed it in Chrome, it offered to translate it automatically, and it was pretty decent.
- rdiddly 9y ago
  Direct link (a doozy): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com.mx%2F2017%2F10%2F31%2Fdocumentos-desclasificados-evidencian-que-tres-presidentes-mexicanos-trabajaban-para-la-cia_a_23261261%2F&edit-text=&act=url https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&pr...
amerine 9y ago
Adolfo López Mateos, Gustavo Díaz Ordaz and Luis Echeverría
- Scipio_Afri 9y ago
  No surprise that this falls before the reforms brought forth by the church committee in 1975. They were presidents spanning from 1960-1976
jeabo 9y ago
No lo creo.
rdiddly 9y ago
Finally Trump does something I like (declassifying these Kennedy files). I also liked the snide remark in the article about how these presidents were CIA employees who governed Mexico "in their spare time."
- meitham 9y ago
  What's the chance these documents are not actually true? If I was the CIA I would use these leaks to declassify false information about my enemies, hoping to destabilise their regimes.
  - fellellor 9y ago
    It's hard for me to believe that the US gov considers Mexican establishment to be it's enemy.
    - wmeredith 9y ago
      Have you listened to anything POTUS has said about Mexico in the last year?
      - fellellor 9y ago
        I meant in general, traditionally etc. That should count for something.
- wlesieutre 9y ago
  The 25 year deadline to declassify them was set in the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992, signed by George Bush senior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_John_F._Kennedy_Assassination_Records_Collection_Act_of_1992 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_John_F._Kennedy_Assa...
- dwyer 9y ago
  He didn't declassify them. They were scheduled to be declassified. Trump's involvement was that the IC asked him to stop them from being declassified and he ignored their request, probably out of spite for the IC.
pacomerh 9y ago
Key part towards the end. "Mexico partnered with the U.S in many ways, from helping intercept the russian and cuban embassies, to trying to find links between Oswald and the Kennedy assassination. Sources told the CIA that Oswald had deposited 5k dlls in a Mexican bank. In a document dated march 9, 1964, it was reported that Mexico traced all of these deposits in Mexican banks trying to look for the money. They didn't find any transactions by Oswald" wrote the NYT as part of these new revelations.
davidmr 9y ago
This has actually been declassified for quite a while[0]. Coincidentally, I started reading Narcoland: The Mexican Drug Lords And Their Godfathers by Anabel Hernández last week, and although the writing is a bit scattershot, it’s quite an eye-opener. I’m only 1/4 through it, but so far, the level of detail is shocking about precisely how deep rooted the corruption is (or at least was until the mid nineties, which is where I’m at now) inside the Mexican government and simultaneously how invasive the interference is from the US government. [0] https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB204/ https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB204/

73 points by lobo_tuerto 9y ago

amerine 9y ago

Anyone have a good English translation?

gknoy 9y ago
When I viewed it in Chrome, it offered to translate it automatically, and it was pretty decent.
rdiddly 9y ago
Direct link (a doozy): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com.mx%2F2017%2F10%2F31%2Fdocumentos-desclasificados-evidencian-que-tres-presidentes-mexicanos-trabajaban-para-la-cia_a_23261261%2F&edit-text=&act=url https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&pr...

amerine 9y ago

Adolfo López Mateos, Gustavo Díaz Ordaz and Luis Echeverría

Scipio_Afri 9y ago
No surprise that this falls before the reforms brought forth by the church committee in 1975. They were presidents spanning from 1960-1976

jeabo 9y ago

No lo creo.

rdiddly 9y ago

Finally Trump does something I like (declassifying these Kennedy files). I also liked the snide remark in the article about how these presidents were CIA employees who governed Mexico "in their spare time."

meitham 9y ago
What's the chance these documents are not actually true? If I was the CIA I would use these leaks to declassify false information about my enemies, hoping to destabilise their regimes.
- fellellor 9y ago
  It's hard for me to believe that the US gov considers Mexican establishment to be it's enemy.
  - wmeredith 9y ago
    Have you listened to anything POTUS has said about Mexico in the last year?
    - fellellor 9y ago
      I meant in general, traditionally etc. That should count for something.
wlesieutre 9y ago
The 25 year deadline to declassify them was set in the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992, signed by George Bush senior https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_John_F._Kennedy_Assassination_Records_Collection_Act_of_1992 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_John_F._Kennedy_Assa...
dwyer 9y ago
He didn't declassify them. They were scheduled to be declassified. Trump's involvement was that the IC asked him to stop them from being declassified and he ignored their request, probably out of spite for the IC.

pacomerh 9y ago

Key part towards the end. "Mexico partnered with the U.S in many ways, from helping intercept the russian and cuban embassies, to trying to find links between Oswald and the Kennedy assassination. Sources told the CIA that Oswald had deposited 5k dlls in a Mexican bank. In a document dated march 9, 1964, it was reported that Mexico traced all of these deposits in Mexican banks trying to look for the money. They didn't find any transactions by Oswald" wrote the NYT as part of these new revelations.

davidmr 9y ago

This has actually been declassified for quite a while[0]. Coincidentally, I started reading Narcoland: The Mexican Drug Lords And Their Godfathers by Anabel Hernández last week, and although the writing is a bit scattershot, it’s quite an eye-opener. I’m only 1/4 through it, but so far, the level of detail is shocking about precisely how deep rooted the corruption is (or at least was until the mid nineties, which is where I’m at now) inside the Mexican government and simultaneously how invasive the interference is from the US government. [0] https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB204/ https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB204/