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Um...no. Leftist politics are inherently anti-nationalist, anti-capitalist, and anti-racist. The venn diagram between liberals and leftists only really overlaps
by knieveltech 9y ago
Um...no. Leftist politics are inherently anti-nationalist, anti-capitalist, and anti-racist. The venn diagram between liberals and leftists only really overlaps on issues of racism, and even that only weakly.
- lern_too_spel 9y agoYour definition confuses the goals with the implementation. You don't need the workers to seize the means of production to achieve minimum living standards, and research shows that there are better ways.
- knieveltech 9y agoA few things: 1. This isn't "my" definition, this is how the term is used everywhere it hasn't been coopted. 2. "goals and implementation" is a non-sequitur in what was a conversation about the meaning of words. 3. Kindly source your claims about "research". I'm currently unaware of any method of establishing controls for whole-society scale experiments in economics so am left puzzled regarding what this "research" might entail.
- lern_too_spel 9y agoYou can make causal statements about data from natural experiments with instrumental variables. This technique has been used by economists since 1928. From the Wikipedia definition (the definition in common use) of left politics: "Left-wing politics supports social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality." If you want to redefine Left-wing politics to be Marxism, do that first before claiming that they are already equivalent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics