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Nope. Both parties are unified on this issue.

by uptown 9y ago

rektide 9y ago
"We Must Fight Even Harder Against Trump's Authoritarian Impulses Now That We've Voted To Enable Them" is another true to life, accurate Onion article. Obama administration certainly made no effort to correct any of the Bush DoJ authorized spying programs, until Wired and then Snowden forced some kind of response, resulting in FISA. Which seems to be a star court that refuses to answer any questions from congress or deny any request. https://politics.theonion.com/pelosi-we-must-fight-even-harder-against-trumps-autho-1822205559 https://politics.theonion.com/pelosi-we-must-fight-even-hard... It's a shit show everywhere. Very very few congress-people seem to have any backbone what-so-ever. Ron Wyden of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is one of the only people that seems to even try to ask questions, and he is shut down and denied by the military at every turn. https://www.thecipherbrief.com/column_article/dont-pass-surveillance-legislation-dark#.WlX-vO2BQqo.twitter https://www.thecipherbrief.com/column_article/dont-pass-surv...
- DrScump 9y ago
  Which seems to be a star court Did you mean a "star chamber" court?
- patrickg_zill 9y ago
  I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that FISA has been around for 20 years or more. Wiki says it was established 1978 as part of an act passed that same year.
  - rayiner 9y ago
    The FISA Act was an attempt to reign in domestic spying. It didn’t create it.
guelo 9y ago
No they are not unified. Going by the congressional vote about 25% of Republicans and 70% of Democrats voted against the spying. If this issue is important to you you're generally better off voting Democrat unless you have a Ron Paul type of Republican.
- nonbel 9y ago
  >"Going by the congressional vote about 25% of Republicans and 70% of Democrats voted against the spying" What were the percentages when there was a democratic party president?
- UncleEntity 9y ago
  That doesn't say much, probably less of an issue to be seen as "soft on terror" these days than supporting anything the president even offhandedly says he might be in favor of.

Nope. Both parties are unified on this issue.

by uptown 9y ago

Nope. Both parties are unified on this issue.

"We Must Fight Even Harder Against Trump's Authoritarian Impulses Now That We've Voted To Enable Them" is another true to life, accurate Onion article. Obama administration certainly made no effort to correct any of the Bush DoJ authorized spying programs, until Wired and then Snowden forced some kind of response, resulting in FISA. Which seems to be a star court that refuses to answer any questions from congress or deny any request. https://politics.theonion.com/pelosi-we-must-fight-even-harder-against-trumps-autho-1822205559 https://politics.theonion.com/pelosi-we-must-fight-even-hard... It's a shit show everywhere. Very very few congress-people seem to have any backbone what-so-ever. Ron Wyden of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence is one of the only people that seems to even try to ask questions, and he is shut down and denied by the military at every turn. https://www.thecipherbrief.com/column_article/dont-pass-surveillance-legislation-dark#.WlX-vO2BQqo.twitter https://www.thecipherbrief.com/column_article/dont-pass-surv...

DrScump 9y ago
Which seems to be a star court Did you mean a "star chamber" court?
patrickg_zill 9y ago
I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that FISA has been around for 20 years or more. Wiki says it was established 1978 as part of an act passed that same year.
- rayiner 9y ago
  The FISA Act was an attempt to reign in domestic spying. It didn’t create it.

guelo 9y ago

No they are not unified. Going by the congressional vote about 25% of Republicans and 70% of Democrats voted against the spying. If this issue is important to you you're generally better off voting Democrat unless you have a Ron Paul type of Republican.

nonbel 9y ago
>"Going by the congressional vote about 25% of Republicans and 70% of Democrats voted against the spying" What were the percentages when there was a democratic party president?
UncleEntity 9y ago
That doesn't say much, probably less of an issue to be seen as "soft on terror" these days than supporting anything the president even offhandedly says he might be in favor of.