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Oh dont get me started. It's impossible. I am an indie developer and want to sell virtual products to europeans. The easiest way to do it is to have an american

Oh dont get me started. It's impossible. I am an indie developer and want to sell virtual products to europeans. The easiest way to do it is to have an american company collect the payments and take a cut. Meanwhile, the EU is busy coming up with cookie laws. Thanks EU. ps. here is a startup that is supposed to help companies with this minefield: http://taxdoo.com http://taxdoo.com . We shouldnt need these things.

dirtyaura 9y ago
EU cookie laws might feel silly, but I’m really glad that EU politicians are erring on that end of the spectrum than taking the path the US has been walking with net neutrality and surveillance.
- TomMarius 9y ago
  They don't feel silly, they are silly. It has literally just made the situation worse.
  - raverbashing 9y ago
    What's silly is people tacking in the cookie notice even for 99% of the times they are not needed > Cookies clearly exempt from consent according to the EU advisory body on data protection- WP29pdf include: > user‑input cookies (session-id) such as first‑party cookies to keep track of the user's input when filling online forms, shopping carts, etc., for the duration of a session or persistent cookies limited to a few hours in some cases authentication cookies, to identify the user once he has logged in, for the duration of a session > user‑centric security cookies, used to detect authentication abuses, for a limited persistent duration multimedia content player cookies, used to store technical data to play back video or audio content, for the duration of a session > load‑balancing cookies, for the duration of session > user‑interface customisation cookies such as language or font preferences, for the duration of a session (or slightly longer) > third‑party social plug‑in content‑sharing cookies, for logged‑in members of a social network. http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm
    - zerostar07 9y ago
      most sites have ads. those companies require it
      - raverbashing 9y ago
        Good catch. Still, some cookie notices keep coming back even after you acknowledge them
      - M2Ys4U 9y ago
        That's the point. Ads harm the visitors of your website, so you should tell them they're being harmed.
- zerostar07 9y ago
  Aren't the VAT requirements going in the exactly opposite direction then? Is it good for privacy that a bunch of different - and of questionable security - tax offices have to know who and where you were exactly when you purchased your sex toys? C'mon man the cookie thing is a silly PR gesture, with measurable economic cost in the time it takes to dismiss all those dialogs in your tiny phone screen. It has done nothing, absolutely nada measurable in attitudes towards tracking.

dirtyaura 9y ago

EU cookie laws might feel silly, but I’m really glad that EU politicians are erring on that end of the spectrum than taking the path the US has been walking with net neutrality and surveillance.

TomMarius 9y ago
They don't feel silly, they are silly. It has literally just made the situation worse.
- raverbashing 9y ago
  What's silly is people tacking in the cookie notice even for 99% of the times they are not needed > Cookies clearly exempt from consent according to the EU advisory body on data protection- WP29pdf include: > user‑input cookies (session-id) such as first‑party cookies to keep track of the user's input when filling online forms, shopping carts, etc., for the duration of a session or persistent cookies limited to a few hours in some cases authentication cookies, to identify the user once he has logged in, for the duration of a session > user‑centric security cookies, used to detect authentication abuses, for a limited persistent duration multimedia content player cookies, used to store technical data to play back video or audio content, for the duration of a session > load‑balancing cookies, for the duration of session > user‑interface customisation cookies such as language or font preferences, for the duration of a session (or slightly longer) > third‑party social plug‑in content‑sharing cookies, for logged‑in members of a social network. http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm
  - zerostar07 9y ago
    most sites have ads. those companies require it
    - raverbashing 9y ago
      Good catch. Still, some cookie notices keep coming back even after you acknowledge them
    - M2Ys4U 9y ago
      That's the point. Ads harm the visitors of your website, so you should tell them they're being harmed.
zerostar07 9y ago
Aren't the VAT requirements going in the exactly opposite direction then? Is it good for privacy that a bunch of different - and of questionable security - tax offices have to know who and where you were exactly when you purchased your sex toys? C'mon man the cookie thing is a silly PR gesture, with measurable economic cost in the time it takes to dismiss all those dialogs in your tiny phone screen. It has done nothing, absolutely nada measurable in attitudes towards tracking.