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Apple iPhone X 'End of Life' Predicted, Production Cuts Seen

18 points by joering2 9y ago

Odenwaelder 9y ago
"Sales have been disappointing" - For a $1000 smartphone? How could that be?
- skrowl 9y ago
  Replace everywhere you see "Sales have been disappointing" when talking about iPhone X with "expectations of sales were unrealistic". That said, I absolutely love my Note 8. I can't imagine paying the same price for a tiny lower res screen, less water resistance, no s-pen, no microSD card, no web browsers, no console game emulators, etc. iPhone X, much less paying $100 MORE for it. I think they just grossly overestimated the "iSheep will buy anything for any price" effect. They still have it, just not as much as 5 years ago.
  - zeusk 9y ago
    I have both S8 and iPhone (7) and haven't touched the S8 in the last 3 months. The fluidity, consistency and UX of android and it's apps is still not on par with iOS. touchID, wallet, continuity, iMessage, smooth animations and an OS that actually respects my privacy trump what android has to offer. The two things I missed from S8 on iPhone 7 were the bezels or lack thereof; which the X takes care of (minus the notch) and magstripe emulation (even then, samsung pay is horrible with knox requirement and the points system).
TokyoKid 9y ago
There was a line-up for the iPhone X in November where I live. There was still that much demand for it. But obviously there's a big part of the market that can't even consider it.
- valuearb 9y ago
  The X is only slightly more expensive than the 8. It’s still selling fine.
- nerdwaller 9y ago
  Oddly in my area I went to the store for my wife to test out the sizes two days after the launch and the sales people were trying to push us toward the X vs the 8+ we both decided on. When I asked they said they had a ton of stock still. The mall we were at is in a pretty affluent area, so I was a bit surprised.
sdm 9y ago
That would be disappointing. The iPhone X has been a game changer for me. It's such a step forward from the previous iPhones, it feels like same jump as when I got my first iPhone 9 years ago.
- bllguo 9y ago
  I haven't heard any sentiments like this from even the most die-hard Apple fans. Care to elaborate on how the X is so revolutionary? What phone did you have before it?
- uniacid 9y ago
  Wow someone's drinking koolaid a bit much no? I would love to hear why you think that and also what was your previous model? I'm on a iPhone 7 Plus which I got in late 2016 and I don't see any reason or need to upgrade it to the X.
  - skrowl 9y ago
    It actually has a smaller screen than your 7 Plus, MUCH smaller if you take out the unusable space to the sides of the notch
    - valuearb 9y ago
      Nope, it’s nearly as big in a much smaller package. Plus: 414 by 628 points X: 375 by 633 points The sides of the notch aren’t unusable, they are the exact same status bar as every iPhone.
      - skrowl 9y ago
        You're not taking out the notch. In total square inches, the X is 97.38% the size of the iPhone 8+, in actual usable space (once you consider the screen on the sides of the notch are effectively worthless for video / content / etc with the status bar hidden) it's roughly equivalent to a 5.0" display. You're paying $200 more for a much smaller screen. Calling the X a 5.8" screen is just marketing. You wouldn't buy an 80" diagonal TV with a huge notch missing out of the top and say it was the same screen size as other 80" TVs, so why apply it to phones?
emsy 9y ago
Images and videos with a high resolution take up a lot of space, so 64GB is really the 16GB version of the iPhone X. I would buy a 128GB version without hesitation. I think the Memory upgrade for the X is the cheapest of any iPhone, but I'm still not willing to hand over 200$ on top of 1000$ just for my phone to be usable. I wonder how many (non-technical) people follow the same line of thinking.
- valuearb 9y ago
  LOL, I have a bunch of apps, take lots of videos and pictures on my X and still have 46 gb left out of 64. You don’t understand Apples new compression formats, it’s use of app slicing and other techniques to minimize storage requirements.
- dwaite 9y ago
  Images and videos are not stored losslessly, so resolution is really a bogus measure of file size or quality - the unstated compression ratio and codec are a better measure. As an example - the same feature-length movie may have a 90 GB HEVC encode via a UHD Bluray, and a 8 GB HEVC encode via some online service - yet both are referred to only as "4k"
  - emsy 9y ago
    You're technically correct. My point was that a photo or video with the highest available quality on the new iPhones takes up more space than before.
llister 9y ago
The web page must be mining cryptocurrencies as in about 30s after I loaded it on my iphone it became so hot it was pretty unplesant to hold in my hand.
dwaite 9y ago
The production cuts of course may be planned (since we are out of the launch and holiday quarters). Also, the "End of Life" is really talking about the phone's features being merged back into the mainline rather than being a separate premium line. Since the newest models of the two lines are pronounced iPhone Eight and iPhone Ten, the only part of this which should really be considered up for speculation would be the timeline.

18 points by joering2 9y ago

Odenwaelder 9y ago

"Sales have been disappointing" - For a $1000 smartphone? How could that be?

skrowl 9y ago
Replace everywhere you see "Sales have been disappointing" when talking about iPhone X with "expectations of sales were unrealistic". That said, I absolutely love my Note 8. I can't imagine paying the same price for a tiny lower res screen, less water resistance, no s-pen, no microSD card, no web browsers, no console game emulators, etc. iPhone X, much less paying $100 MORE for it. I think they just grossly overestimated the "iSheep will buy anything for any price" effect. They still have it, just not as much as 5 years ago.
- zeusk 9y ago
  I have both S8 and iPhone (7) and haven't touched the S8 in the last 3 months. The fluidity, consistency and UX of android and it's apps is still not on par with iOS. touchID, wallet, continuity, iMessage, smooth animations and an OS that actually respects my privacy trump what android has to offer. The two things I missed from S8 on iPhone 7 were the bezels or lack thereof; which the X takes care of (minus the notch) and magstripe emulation (even then, samsung pay is horrible with knox requirement and the points system).

TokyoKid 9y ago

There was a line-up for the iPhone X in November where I live. There was still that much demand for it. But obviously there's a big part of the market that can't even consider it.

valuearb 9y ago
The X is only slightly more expensive than the 8. It’s still selling fine.
nerdwaller 9y ago
Oddly in my area I went to the store for my wife to test out the sizes two days after the launch and the sales people were trying to push us toward the X vs the 8+ we both decided on. When I asked they said they had a ton of stock still. The mall we were at is in a pretty affluent area, so I was a bit surprised.

sdm 9y ago

That would be disappointing. The iPhone X has been a game changer for me. It's such a step forward from the previous iPhones, it feels like same jump as when I got my first iPhone 9 years ago.

bllguo 9y ago
I haven't heard any sentiments like this from even the most die-hard Apple fans. Care to elaborate on how the X is so revolutionary? What phone did you have before it?
uniacid 9y ago
Wow someone's drinking koolaid a bit much no? I would love to hear why you think that and also what was your previous model? I'm on a iPhone 7 Plus which I got in late 2016 and I don't see any reason or need to upgrade it to the X.
- skrowl 9y ago
  It actually has a smaller screen than your 7 Plus, MUCH smaller if you take out the unusable space to the sides of the notch
  - valuearb 9y ago
    Nope, it’s nearly as big in a much smaller package. Plus: 414 by 628 points X: 375 by 633 points The sides of the notch aren’t unusable, they are the exact same status bar as every iPhone.
    - skrowl 9y ago
      You're not taking out the notch. In total square inches, the X is 97.38% the size of the iPhone 8+, in actual usable space (once you consider the screen on the sides of the notch are effectively worthless for video / content / etc with the status bar hidden) it's roughly equivalent to a 5.0" display. You're paying $200 more for a much smaller screen. Calling the X a 5.8" screen is just marketing. You wouldn't buy an 80" diagonal TV with a huge notch missing out of the top and say it was the same screen size as other 80" TVs, so why apply it to phones?

emsy 9y ago

Images and videos with a high resolution take up a lot of space, so 64GB is really the 16GB version of the iPhone X. I would buy a 128GB version without hesitation. I think the Memory upgrade for the X is the cheapest of any iPhone, but I'm still not willing to hand over 200$ on top of 1000$ just for my phone to be usable. I wonder how many (non-technical) people follow the same line of thinking.

valuearb 9y ago
LOL, I have a bunch of apps, take lots of videos and pictures on my X and still have 46 gb left out of 64. You don’t understand Apples new compression formats, it’s use of app slicing and other techniques to minimize storage requirements.
dwaite 9y ago
Images and videos are not stored losslessly, so resolution is really a bogus measure of file size or quality - the unstated compression ratio and codec are a better measure. As an example - the same feature-length movie may have a 90 GB HEVC encode via a UHD Bluray, and a 8 GB HEVC encode via some online service - yet both are referred to only as "4k"
- emsy 9y ago
  You're technically correct. My point was that a photo or video with the highest available quality on the new iPhones takes up more space than before.

llister 9y ago

The web page must be mining cryptocurrencies as in about 30s after I loaded it on my iphone it became so hot it was pretty unplesant to hold in my hand.

dwaite 9y ago

The production cuts of course may be planned (since we are out of the launch and holiday quarters). Also, the "End of Life" is really talking about the phone's features being merged back into the mainline rather than being a separate premium line. Since the newest models of the two lines are pronounced iPhone Eight and iPhone Ten, the only part of this which should really be considered up for speculation would be the timeline.