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oh dear, LittleSnitch wanted to charge money for creating a really handy tool, how terrible.

prepend 9y ago
It’s the charge for upgrades that I don’t like. I bought it once, upgrades should be free. Or so significant that I want to pay.
- zarify 9y ago
  Considering Apple's constant shifting of goalposts with macOS, what counts as "significant" in your book, even disregarding user-facing features? And how significant is the ~$50 they want for it?
  - always_good 9y ago
    It's just $25 for an upgrade. I have to roll my eyes at someone who scoffs at a $25 upgrade every few years. If they're not cool with funding any future development on the product, then they must be cool with not upgrading. But of course they instead entitle themselves to all of your future labor because they once threw some shekels your way.
- deleted 9y ago
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- vim_wannabe 9y ago
  Now we just need to figure out who pays for those upgrades. I think we could try a scheme where we keep growing the user base so more recent customers pay for the prior customers' upgrades. Hmm, wait a minute...
  - sudouser 9y ago
    sounds nice, i'm in, now i'm get some people under this not-a-pyramid
- sudouser 9y ago
  you only need to pay every 3-5 years aaaaand only if you want to upgrade, aaaaaaand you can keep using your last updated version, aaaand only 50% of the full price
  - pilsetnieks 9y ago
    You can't, if you also want to upgrade your OS. v3 doesn't work on High Sierra.
    - Udo_Schmitz 9y ago
      It does: https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/releasenotes3.html https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/releasenotes3.htm...
      - sudouser 9y ago
        yep, they even did some fixes for Yosemite
- pmarreck 9y ago
  Show me this universe where programmers don’t have to eat after their 1.0!
  - discordance 9y ago
    It depends... If I'm paying for an update that fixes bugs/issues released in a prior version then I don't expect to pay for that. If the new version has a lot of new features I would be OK paying for that.

It’s the charge for upgrades that I don’t like. I bought it once, upgrades should be free. Or so significant that I want to pay.

zarify 9y ago
Considering Apple's constant shifting of goalposts with macOS, what counts as "significant" in your book, even disregarding user-facing features? And how significant is the ~$50 they want for it?
- always_good 9y ago
  It's just $25 for an upgrade. I have to roll my eyes at someone who scoffs at a $25 upgrade every few years. If they're not cool with funding any future development on the product, then they must be cool with not upgrading. But of course they instead entitle themselves to all of your future labor because they once threw some shekels your way.
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vim_wannabe 9y ago
Now we just need to figure out who pays for those upgrades. I think we could try a scheme where we keep growing the user base so more recent customers pay for the prior customers' upgrades. Hmm, wait a minute...
- sudouser 9y ago
  sounds nice, i'm in, now i'm get some people under this not-a-pyramid
sudouser 9y ago
you only need to pay every 3-5 years aaaaand only if you want to upgrade, aaaaaaand you can keep using your last updated version, aaaand only 50% of the full price
- pilsetnieks 9y ago
  You can't, if you also want to upgrade your OS. v3 doesn't work on High Sierra.
  - Udo_Schmitz 9y ago
    It does: https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/releasenotes3.html https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/releasenotes3.htm...
    - sudouser 9y ago
      yep, they even did some fixes for Yosemite
pmarreck 9y ago
Show me this universe where programmers don’t have to eat after their 1.0!
- discordance 9y ago
  It depends... If I'm paying for an update that fixes bugs/issues released in a prior version then I don't expect to pay for that. If the new version has a lot of new features I would be OK paying for that.