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In an environment where non-progressives are shunned, he refrains from shunning them. Where non-progressives are demonized, he dispels the myth that non-progre
by ihsw2 9y ago
In an environment where non-progressives are shunned, he refrains from shunning them.
Where non-progressives are demonized, he dispels the myth that non-progressives deserve to be demonized.
And so forth -- we are en an environment where progressives are increasingly assertive and increasingly hostile to non-progressives, for whatever reason.
We can wax poetic about the quality of his zealots' character until the cows come home but it doesn't address the fact that people will always seek an icon to revolve around. The only solution to such a situation, like insurgencies in war-zones, is de-escalation and re-integration (of militant progressives and social conservatives into a cohesive society where they both achieve political representation and fairness in the eyes of the law).
Unfortunately modern-day progressives (regressives) have no interest in this and as such social conservatives will continue to gravitate towards those that they don't fully understand but nevertheless find appealing.
- optimuspaul 9y agoprogressives have been shunned and demonized for so much longer. What did you expect would happen?
- tomsthumb 9y agoWithout my agreeing or disagreeing, does that make the above posted ideas incorrect? If not, why are they downvoted?
- sincerely 9y agoProbably the way that poster threw in the "regressive" label for modern progressives (who I'm guessing a lot of people might identify as) at the end, if I had to guess.
- tomsthumb 9y agoHow would you describe the emerging subset of traditional liberals who are beginning to embrace authoritarian stances in the context of authoritarianism being largely incompatible with liberal ideals? Edit: This is a sincere question. If a more useful description or label exists I would like to know it.
- ravenstine 9y agoWhen did progressives start believing en masse that two wrongs make a right?
- stcredzero 9y ago"There is no such thing as black racism." "It's okay to hate your oppressors." "X = Prejudice + Power" "By Any Means Necessary" It goes at least as far back as Karl Marx, but probably further.
- ihsw2 9y agoI have a hard time reconciling my progressive ideals with social constructivism, where distinct groups seek to assert control over society and "guide" it to achieve a certain political ideal. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenklatura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomenklatura
- bomb199 9y agoWhat an odd viewpoint. Progressives (least ones I associate with) are increasingly shunning "Social Conservatives" because they release that the position that's become known as "Social Conservative" is about authoritarianism. The election of Trump has made the damage they're doing painfully obvious. Suddenly, Nazis are "good people" and that has really riled people up. It's hard for me to support someone when I know they voted for a Nazi sympathizer, and thus I have no desire to interact with them.
- pjkundert 9y agoUnfortunately, in a world where everyone is purportedly a Nazi (including my grandmother), nobody is a Nazi. And state control of academia and industry for the purpose of punishing those that don't support ever-increasing state power is indeed of grave concern...
- grasshopperpurp 9y agoCurious as to why your grandmother was called a Nazi . . .
- pluto9 9y agoIs, not was. Nice attempt to imply that GP's grandmother was an actual WWII-era Nazi.
- grasshopperpurp 9y agoThat was not my intent. I figured that she was called it on one occasion - not that it's a regular thing. Hence: was.
- pjkundert 9y agoDisagreement with a proposed belief/behavior system is equated with "hate", and hate-filled "whatever"-phobes are Nazis. My grandmother remains unconvinced that "whatever" is good. Hence she is "hate" filled, and a Nazi. QED.